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"On Monday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced to the world that Israel had carried out a stunning intelligence operation: their agents had smuggled tens of thousands of physical documents about Iran’s nuclear program out of Iran itself. Those “half a ton” of documents demonstrate Iran’s ongoing nuclear program, and the fact that the Obama administration lied constantly and repeatedly to the public about Iran’s newfound moderation in order to scam the public into approving Obama’s Iran nuclear deal — a deal that allowed Iran to maximize its regional power with income from the West."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/30045...00-ben-shapiro


Still wondering what the billions in cash was really for....... Are we about to find out?

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Fake news from a Russian propoganda fake nic

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Steve Rupe

You continue to be a delusional nutcase or maybe just a liar in this instance.

MFCT

Y'all don't even understand what's really going on here. Please bear with me as I give you a very short, brief, concise history lesson.

I'm sure y'all remember this in October 2000:

And I'm sure y'all remember this, by our former president, the eloquent George "Dubya" Bush, back in October 2002:

And finally on March 20, 2003, the Iraq War began. Its mission was to eliminate Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction program...... OH WAIT, I mean, um...to free the Iraqi people from a ruthless dictator. Yeah, THAT was it. Hehe.

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OK, so with the history lesson over, let's see what's happening today. Oh look, gee willikers, looks like Iran has dropped the dollar for the Euro. Just like Saddam did way back in the day. Ain't that a co-inky-dink?




https://youtu.be/uEK6-CHP6SY

And right on the tail of that event...looky now. By golly, Iran is all the sudden being accused of having a nuclear weapons program. Now, ain't that a co-inky-dink? Gosh, I hope the final proof of Iran's nuclear program doesn't come in the form of a mushroom cloud. George "Dubya," where oh where are you now in our most desperate hour?

Boys, and girls, and whatever you are, I think we all need to rally together and call for war with Iran. I'm sure it won't turn into another big D'OH like the Iraq War did. And even if it does, all we need to do is change the objective to "the war to free the Iranian people from a ruthless regime" in the middle of the game, and hope nobody notices. Then everything will be peachy.

Yeah anyways, fuck this shit.

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Onwebcam dude you are mentally ill.. There is really no other excuse..

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I hope iran nukes the fuck up ASAP...its the only way to keep invaders away

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xClips Jim

Fake news? LOL.

Okay, here you go from your own sources:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/30/middl...ram/index.html

"(CNN)Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says Israel has evidence Iranian officials were "brazenly lying" when they said Iran wasn't pursuing nuclear weapons and that the Islamic republic is keeping an "atomic archive" at a secret compound.

"Tonight, I'm here to tell you one thing: Iran lied -- big time," Netanyahu said late Monday during an address from the Israel Ministry of Defense in Tel Aviv.

Calling it one of the greatest achievements in the history of Israeli intelligence, Netanyahu displayed what he said were files that demonstrate Iran planned to continue pursuing a nuclear weapons program despite the 2015 deal it brokered with the international community.

Speaking in English, Netanyahu accused Iran of ramping up efforts to obscure the files in 2015 and moving them to a secret location in Tehran last year.
The files were kept in massive vaults inside an "innocent-looking compound" in Shorabad District, the Prime Minister said. The 100,000 files contain, among other things, blueprints, charts, photos, videos and presentations dealing with nuclear weaponry.

"Iran planned at the highest level to continue work related to nuclear weapons under different guises and using the same personnel," he said.


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So you can believe Israel OR you can believe Iran. That's open to your interpretation and whatever rattles around your head. This was Obama's deal. His involvement in a cover-up is not alleged in this, so as usual, onwebcam makes a terrible case. Making it sound like Obama is involved in a cover-up is an opinion and not a fact. He could be right or he could be wrong, but stating it as fact is not correct - such thinking makes him - Bladewire.

What it is NOT, is fake news. Even if it IS on CNN.

xClips Jim

Agreed, this is what we have always done in the past. If you are right, everything I think is happening is wrong. But I believe we are in a different time now and that this way of doing things is ending. We are going to need some more time to find out. Just think, a few months ago it was going to be fire and fury like never seen before - and what happened?

Let's be patient. What choice do we have, really?

bronco67

The article states "Benjamin Netananyu says"....,

That doesn't mean what he says is fact.

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xClips Jim

I did not claim what he said was fact. Again, we have a reading comprehension problem. What I said was: "So you can believe Israel OR you can believe Iran. That's open to your interpretation and whatever rattles around your head."

This means the news was reported. Iran is responding to it. They are calling each other liars. I have not said what Netananyu claims is fact. What I am saying is, it is happening.

This is brand new - it just took place yesterday. I don't know the facts and neither do you. What we know is - this event is not fake news.

Someone is lying. Who do you believe is my question. Israel or Iran?

directfiesta

All those so called news breaking documents are old archives that have ALREADY been reviewed by the nuclear inspection team ...

Netananyu has been playing Trump from day one, starting by feeding his ego , and now by making him right on his thoughts about Iran.

And stupid americans will bite in that like in a hamburger ... but it is a nothingburger ....
Let's hope that the international copmmunity will not be fooled again ....

xClips Jim

Okay. I see you've made a decision, and in a remarkably short amount of time. I congratulate your ability to formulate your decisions that quickly.

Let's hope we "stupid americans" take a little more time to digest it.

directfiesta

You can go and check my post of 2003 about the invasion of Iraq ....

Don't need to be a " stable genius" to know when you are getting played ....

xClips Jim

I'd prefer not to have to research your posts from 15 years ago and search inside of those by keyword. That seems quite silly.

Like I have said several times now - we don't know. At least I don't know because I don't make final decisions that way. You share a faculty with Rochard that I do not possess - an ability to know things out of thin air. Believe me, I wish I had such powers. You should feel extremely lucky.

onwebcam

Obama lied which means Obama knew which means Obama covered it up. If he did know what's he doing sending billions in cash? Where did U1 uranium end up? He lied about that as well.

xClips Jim

Where are you getting this information? How do you know Obama lied? How do you know he covered it up? We know about the cash sent. Fine. Prove where it went and what it was used for.

Where did some of the uranium from the Uranium One deal go? That's a good question. I would assume that you know as well as I do that we need to wait for that proof - so why bring it up?

It's the same sickness. Claims without proof. It doesn't matter if I agree with you or not. You have to prove it.

hottoddy

Thank God this buffoon is no longer making phony nuclear deals with Islamic countries.

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BaldBastard

Your all aware that the Iran deal was between 6 counties not just the USA?

US, UK, Russia, France, China, and Germany

Jared the Jew been whispering in Dotards ear again?

https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-...03-p4z2oh.html

xClips Jim

Very aware. I believe that reality is going to become even more glaringly obvious soon.

xClips Jim

People should be worried that we are headed towards another idiotic invasion of a country based on bad information at best, and outright deception of warmongers at worst. This stuff is no joke.

That is very reasonable thought. I am hoping that crucifissio is not serious when he hopes that Iran nukes someone because - well, Jesus Christ...who would want that?

But it is a very realistic fear that we would be duplicating past history.

I don't think we are. But only a fool would completely discount the possibility.

BaldBastard

Its a load of shite

If the Israeli's think they have something new.. take it to the IAE but no, they make a new conference with pictures for Dotard to follow. IAE has the right to inspect what they want as part of the original deal.

Keep in mind as part of the deal.. they could continue make weapons grade Uranium anyways just under supervision and selling it on to others.

xClips Jim

These are serious matters and they deserve attention. The other countries that are party to the agreement will have their say as well.

So for now, I will put you down in the Iran is telling the truth and Israel is lying side of the board. A perfectly legitimate thought with the information we currently have.

Bladewire

Netanyahu is as corrupt As Trump and is being investigated by his own intelligence agencies just like Trump is I wouldn't put it past him to lie for Trump and for their own best interests

Israeli police recommend charging Benjamin Netanyahu with bribery in corruption investigation

Steve Rupe

He does not mind making shit up out of thin blue air. He is either delusional or a liar or both. He stated for the longest period of time that the special prosecutor was all about investigating Hillary and her people from day one and not the Donald. He may still be taking that position tough he has not stated that for quite sometime.

xClips Jim

You would be right to question everything he said. It doesn't mean he is delusional or lying. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. It doesn't seem too much to ask.

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"and the fact that the Obama administration lied constantly and repeatedly to the public about Iran’s newfound moderation in order to scam the public into approving Obama’s Iran nuclear deal "

It will be revealed, no doubt about it. It may have just been revealed? "a deal that allowed Iran to maximize its regional power with income from the West."


Obama had to personally sign off on that enriched weapons grade yellowcake to leave the country.. This is after he swore up and down it would never leave the country..

Why bring it up now? Because these questions need to be answered NOW not after we figure out where it went via a dirty bomb.


BTW this doesn't lead us into war with Iran. Iran is the most secular of all of them and Trump isn't going to try and change that.... Where it does lead is a real deal... Along exposing Obama and his true intentions....

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↑↑↑ Onwebcam aka xClips Jim aka mineistaken aka wehateporn , etc. So many fake nics so little time. Sucks AVN Media Networks Inc. let you destroy GFY

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Bladewire, you're being ridiculous. You know that the 4 members you named are NOT the same person. Calling everyone a fake nic makes you the boy who cries wolf. Please take a deep breath.. exhale... it'll be ok buddy just try not not to lie so much

Full disclosure: I've never had a different nic on gfy.

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For starters, I don't trust Israel any more than Iran.
Their relationship with the US is like having a punk kid brother who goes out and picks a fight knowing his big bro will fight his battles.

To continue...
If this 'newly acquired (stolen) data' is a surprise to anyone, how would Obama known it.
I don't doubt Israel might fabricate some data to mix in with what they acquired from Iran. The have a interest and history of doing so.

Anyway, to keep from making so many more knee-jerk reactions to make things worse,
Why not let it fester a while longer...
Of course that will mean more fabricated fake news to come.

As much as I hate to admit it, Iran is a sovereign nation and has as much right to a bomb as we do. (not that I want to see that) As much Iraq is and we had no biz going in there for a overturn of the government when they never attacked us. Not saying we had no biz keeping them in their own borders, but you have to ask, have we become a rouge nation ourselves ?

As a nation, a little self-reflection is needed. The military establishment in the US has been in control of the political establishment for almost 20 years now. Perhaps more.
We can not keep making excuses for our bad deeds. We need a comprehensive and long term approach to geo-political problems that lasts longer than one party control of the government.

But they keep you all arguing with yourselves on many issues that really don't matter much in the grander scope of the world and most can't see what you need to as you are all playing their game.

They all only tell you what they 'want' (truth or not) to form a opinion of what 'they need'.

Truth or consequences !

bronco67

Also, that punk kid brother lives in the worst possible neighborhood.

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LOL! Not to be immodest, but if all those nics are foreign Russian trolls bots shills whatever, and I am all of that, I feel like I have an exceedingly decent grasp of English as a second language - and a demonstrably better reading comprehension ability than Ms. Bladewire. Logical, as always, ma'am.

I'm sorry, Sally - if I had realized you were a woman I wouldn't have struck you. Take care now. My mission to destroy GFY by pointing out that you rarely make sense will diminish as I continue learning who not to take seriously.

pimpmaster9000

List of governents I particularly do not trust or believe shit that they say: USA and Israel...

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xClips Jim

There are a lot of questions to be answered. Is there a source for what you are saying above? It appears to be a quote with no attribution. Still, the quote will quite obviously be opinion until proven.


When I say bring it up now, I really mean - why bring it up without proof? You'd have to understand that it's going to turn people off, right? Contrary to some of the fantasies of lunatics around here, statements do not equal proof.

That is the hope. Warmongers are relentless and I don't put anything past them.

xClips Jim

Point accepted. Anyone remember when Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize and then bombed the shit out of everyone all 8 years of his Presidency? Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, etc etc. I probably even left some out. Yeah, that was awesome.

Remember when Netanyahu testified before Congress that it would be to everyone's benefit if we attacked Iraq? Yeah, that was awesome.

It's important to keep our eyes wide open on this.

beerptrol

Yep, next Netananyu will be waving an old 8 track tape and say it's new proof of Iran starting their nuclear program. Followed by Trump tweeting how he believes him!

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BaldBastard

It very well could be true, the good news is there's and international team of experts that can access anywhere they want under the terms of the original agreement.... But no Netananyu does it on national TV with pictures for Dotard.

If the deal's off with Iran, they can't sell as much oil.. price of Oil goes up along with gas their second biggest earner.

What country would benefit the most from higher Oil and Gas prices?

Any Putin lovers want to comment???/?

xClips Jim

Not to be taken as a Putin lover (cue my stalker, Ms. Bladewire), but the bad news is that as you rightly point out, there are billions of dollars at stake here. How much does it cost to buy an international team of experts? How many suicides or accidental deaths for those you can't buy? What if the nuclear development process was moved to another, more friendly to Iran locale that is not scrutinized the way Iran itself is?

I don't trust any of them.

pimpmaster9000

both iraq invasions were based on complete lies and manipulations...unfortunately there is no court where the USA or israel can be held accountable...my favorite example is saddams invisible WMD...not one single person went to jail over this and everybody involved just ignores all criticism its like when you scold a dog for doing something bad and the dog just looks the other way

Q: hey USA what about the lies about WMD in iraq?
USA: *crickets*

I believe iran more than I believe the US or israel

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Netanyahu's info on Iran nukes known to U.S. intelligence for years
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-years-n870456

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Secret Underground 'Nuclear Facility' in Syria Baffles Experts

The Institute for Science and International Security looked into a 2015 report alleging that Syria was building another reactor – publishing their findings a day after Israel claimed responsibility for 2007 attack
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...erts-1.5936846


Iran accused of building secret underground nuclear plant
Iran has been secretly constructing a vast underground complex to hide a nuclear facility in the mountains east of Tehran in a development that would violate the UN sanctions regime, it has been claimed.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ear-plant.html

Missile strike: Explosions reported at Iranian base in Northern Syria

AN EXPLOSION at a military site in northern Syria was so powerful it registered as a 2.6-magnitute earthquake. The source of the attack is mysterious.
Syria: huge explosion near Homs registered as earthquake

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VRPdommy

If you keep 'JUST PUTTING OUT THE FIRE'
All you get is 'MANY MORE FIRES'
BTW... GASOLINE IS NOT A FIRE RETARDANT !

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There will be no peace in the middle east until those that have the vested benefit of peace have a vested interest in the war to achieve it.
-ME 1995

oh...
I also have this to share...
I often record stuff for historical benefit. I have a large archive of stuff and was cleaning through it to see what I could delete. I ran into this interesting tid-bit that you really must listen to the whole thing. Meet The Press - 2005.
The best way to understand the future is to better understand the past. How soon we forget !

http://144.202.54.236/backup/pd_mtp-...005-070851.mp3

VRPdommy

One thing to remember after listening to the mp3 above is that it was Dick Cheney
that organized the intel on stating the case for war. Not GW Bush.
It's easy to point fingers but not to understand the truth unless you allow for it.

You do learn more from the use of words if you do not look at the visual distractions.
I would suggest to all that you start listening to the news and not watching it.
Been doing it that way for over 25 years.

Anyway... food for thought if you dare do that.

BaldBastard

The wars in the middle east will stop soon enough.. if we're still here.

Take away the oil value and all they are is towel heads selling camels. I don't know if that will happen in any of our lives but it sure as fuck will happen given the advances in alternative energy sources in the past 20 years.

The decision about the middle east in the future won't be made by small countries like the USA, its Chinas call.

MFCT

True, we are in a different time now. Back then, we were in the midst of 9/11 and everyone was angry about it, itching for war, and wanting revenge on those responsible.

Wait, stop the presses! Look what happened just yesterday, May 2. I cannot make this shit up!

Source: https://www.rt.com/usa/425625-judge-...y-911-victims/

So now.....apparently Iran was responsible for 9/11 all along. Now ain't that a co-inky-dink? So I can only presume the Afghanistan war, the Iraq war, and Bin Laden were all just oopsies.

Look. They've made up their mind. They're going to war with Iran, and the drill leading up to it is going at light-speed. Sad times we live in.

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covered up?? the government knew

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"Tehran has been ordered by a US court to pay more than $6 billion to victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, despite the fact that most of the plane hijackers were Saudi nationals, and no direct link was ever found to Iran."

^^^^


this is why everybody should just nuke up...the west will never leave you alone until you make them...

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VRPdommy

Well 'Simply' Stated !

Even the weakest of minds should be able to grasp that concept !

I'm just waiting to hear some more BS like how they rape women and children and are selling WMD to everyone to draw up public support for a new action they want to take.
This is how it's done folks !
They want to take action so they make up reasons to hate and fear !
Problem is there may actually be some truth in there somewhere but how will you know it.

ruff

The stupid is strong in this thread.