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Old 06-29-2019, 12:37 AM   #51
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That bum you walk by on the street and you think get a job you filthy begger.. Always remember that could be you a year from now. You never know what your situation will be next week much less a year from now.

Same can be said for your country.. how fast can it really all go wrong? It can happen pretty fast... History has shown us this.. So maybe 5 or 10 years from now you are that person seeking asylum.

If you can not put yourself in their shoes, then you have no empathy.. If you have no empathy, what are you?
This is true. How many Americans have been put out of a job because an illegal immigrant does it cheaper?
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Old 06-29-2019, 12:38 AM   #52
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Actually birth rates are declining in all western countries. You simply have to take more outside people in if you want to keep up that 800 billion dollar military budget..

The US economy only works if it's always growing...
An economy works on the amount of money in the system, not the number of people. That's why it's counted in $$$ and not population size.

1 person on $1,000 a week is worth more than 2 people on $500 a week. And most certainly worth a lot more than 10 people on $100 a month. Do you see how it works now?
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Old 06-29-2019, 12:47 AM   #55
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Dude.. even you have to be able to understand the problems with the gangs in SA and the Cartels in Mexico have created a much different problem now than what there was just 10 years ago..

It's not that situation anymore where they come here then go back.. they are fleeing the violence dude. It's not parents sending their kids to make a few bucks these days, it's parents sending their kids so they don't end up dead or the trigger man for a gang or cartel..
As you saw from the later video it's impossible for the people to all flee the violence. poverty, etc. It's impossible to cure these countries of their problems unless they start themselves.

All you want to do is scratch a gaping wound to ease your conscience. Sending truck loads of contraception pills would be a start.
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Gangs that were started in the US, a gang who's leader was trained by the Green Berets.

MS13 was formed in California, we exported them back to elSalvador when we decided to empty our prisons and now they come back..
So all the violence starts in the US and the places they come from are peaceful.
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An economy works on the amount of money in the system, not the number of people. That's why it's counted in $$$ and not population size.

1 person on $1,000 a week is worth more than 2 people on $500 a week. And most certainly worth a lot more than 10 people on $100 a month. Do you see how it works now?
don't be fucking stupid you need labor and a population. jeez an economy is many things working together. like this planet. a beehive
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I don't hate anyone.

All Americans are immigrants. My family is from Poland and Ireland.
Were they legal or illegal immigrants?
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The good news is that Trump keeps posting tweets referring to Australia's immigration policies, take a look at Trumps twitter and recent media uploads..

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Here in Aus our closest neighbours New Zealanders, those from South Pacific, ( like Mexico and Canada to the USA) have full immigration rights, they can come here and work, get full government benefits, free health care, free education, anytime they want.

The only difference Government rights and benefits wise between an Australian and an New Zealander living in Australia, is the right to vote in Australian elections and vice versa. 23% of NZ's population live in Aus, 1 in 6 Maori, live in Australia ;)

Time to invite your Mexican family ;)
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said the weak generation to the strong one
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said the weak generation to the strong one
Hey i do not approve violence,police should do the job
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I remember when all the fag celebrities said they would move to Canada if Trump got elected.

Good luck with that. Get in line like everybody else. No free pass here.
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don't be fucking stupid you need labor and a population. jeez an economy is many things working together. like this planet. a beehive
The need for labour is easily solved because no one plans to revert to pre-industrial revolution strategies. A population living on the edge of poverty isn't as rich as one living in luxury.

Mechanising took over in the middle of the 18th century. Here's a description.


The only reason China and India are climbing so fast is a vast number of buyers outside China and India. So don't link people and production as one in the same place.

We've started another phase of the industrial revolution. Automation when computers and machines will do the jobs of millions. Then what will the people be needed for in such huge numbers? Will China and India stay producing products by today's methods, or will the West automate and reduce it's population to fit it's purse?
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nevermind machines and computers build themselves. jeans and other items are made by machines. stop with the photos
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The need for labour is easily solved because no one plans to revert to pre-industrial revolution strategies. A population living on the edge of poverty isn't as rich as one living in luxury.

Mechanising took over in the middle of the 18th century. Here's a description.


The only reason China and India are climbing so fast is a vast number of buyers outside China and India. So don't link people and production as one in the same place.

We've started another phase of the industrial revolution. Automation when computers and machines will do the jobs of millions. Then what will the people be needed for in such huge numbers? Will China and India stay producing products by today's methods, or will the West automate and reduce it's population to fit it's purse?
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Stop giving them facts as they're only interested in emotions.
The video is hyperbole.. no one is saying let everyone in the US. We are saying there isnt a need for a fabricated crisis that Trump created which is now killing people and causing children to be separated from their families.

Only a Nazi would continue to support that..
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An economy works on the amount of money in the system, not the number of people. That's why it's counted in $$$ and not population size.

1 person on $1,000 a week is worth more than 2 people on $500 a week. And most certainly worth a lot more than 10 people on $100 a month. Do you see how it works now?

1 person making $1k a week buys 1 hamburger for lunch, drives 1 car to work, rents 1 apartment ect..ect..


2 people making $500/week eat 2 hamburgers for lunch drive to work in 2 cars rent 2 apartments.


Do you now not see the flaw in your logic? More people spending money is what creates a strong economy not less people with more money..
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The video is hyperbole.. no one is saying let everyone in the US. We are saying there isnt a need for a fabricated crisis that Trump created which is now killing people and causing children to be separated from their families.

Only a Nazi would continue to support that..
If only your pretend concern for children and fake outrage was so intense when Obama was President and he was stuffing children in cages. Only a Nazi would do that.
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1 person making $1k a week buys 1 hamburger for lunch, drives 1 car to work, rents 1 apartment ect..ect..


2 people making $500/week eat 2 hamburgers for lunch drive to work in 2 cars rent 2 apartments.


Do you now not see the flaw in your logic? More people spending money is what creates a strong economy not less people with more money..
well duh! i already explained that
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If only your pretend concern for children and fake outrage was so intense when Obama was President and he was stuffing children in cages. Only a Nazi would do that.

You probably should learn the truth about this since you keep repeating this lie.


Alternative Fact of the Week: Kids in cages? Thanks, Obama

Now what makes this claim so insidious is that there’s a nugget of truth here but only the tiniest of one. That is to say that children were sometimes separated from adults at the border in limited cases such as suspected human trafficking or when family ties appeared doubtful or they were simply unaccompanied minors, a practice that took place during George W. Bush’s presidency as well. What raised a furor, and caused the number of incarcerated children to skyrocket, was the so-called “zero tolerance” policy begun in pilot program in 2017 and then greatly expanded by then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions one year ago. Under this wholly Trump administration policy, all adults crossing the border illegally were treated as criminals and their children housed apart from them. This affected thousands of children and it was handled so poorly that the Department of Homeland Security still hasn’t offered a full accounting of how many youngsters were involved and whether they were all successfully reunited with their families. The president ended the practice last summer.

Yet there was Mr. Trump at a photo op at the White House this week with Egypt’s president telling reporters that he was the one who corrected an Obama transgression. "I'm the one that stopped it," President Trump boasted. "President Obama had child separation."


Fox News’ Shep Smith and John Roberts Tag-Team to Fact-Check Trump Lies on Family Separation
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1 person making $1k a week buys 1 hamburger for lunch, drives 1 car to work, rents 1 apartment ect..ect..


2 people making $500/week eat 2 hamburgers for lunch drive to work in 2 cars rent 2 apartments.


Do you now not see the flaw in your logic? More people spending money is what creates a strong economy not less people with more money..
Every week Paul's memory is wiped of what was explained to him the week before.

This has been explained to Paul Markham countless times here over the last 3 years, almost bi weekly.
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You probably should learn the truth about this since you keep repeating this lie.

The alt-right fake nic trolls job here is to repeat the lies and spread new lies.

They aren't here to learn

They aren't here to evolve

They aren't here to make friends

They are here to spread lies & propoganda. That's it.
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sure blame the american government. oh believe me they will not get citizenship ever now that they are caught. it's a great system. now they need to put a law in place. if you hire someone that has deported you go to prison.
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Now what makes this claim so insidious is that there’s a nugget of truth here but only the tiniest of one. That is to say that children were sometimes separated from adults at the border in limited cases such as suspected human trafficking or when family ties appeared doubtful or they were simply unaccompanied minors, a practice that took place during George W. Bush’s presidency as well. What raised a furor, and caused the number of incarcerated children to skyrocket, was the so-called “zero tolerance” policy begun in pilot program in 2017 and then greatly expanded by then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions one year ago. Under this wholly Trump administration policy, all adults crossing the border illegally were treated as criminals and their children housed apart from them. This affected thousands of children and it was handled so poorly that the Department of Homeland Security still hasn’t offered a full accounting of how many youngsters were involved and whether they were all successfully reunited with their families. The president ended the practice last summer.

Yet there was Mr. Trump at a photo op at the White House this week with Egypt’s president telling reporters that he was the one who corrected an Obama transgression. "I'm the one that stopped it," President Trump boasted. "President Obama had child separation."


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Nothing to see here.. .just some Obama officials touring the very detention facilities that today, unhinged lunatics are calling Nazi Concentration Camps.... cause DRuMpphhhherrrph!!!



Everything that Dems claim to be outraged about at the border today was happening under Obama as well - the difference being of course, that Obama got a pass... and Orange Man Bad!!!

Fake concern
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Fake virtue signaling

This issue is just one more example of Democrats being fully out of step with voters who want illegal immigration stopped and borders secured. Your pretend to care but don't care when Dems vote time and time again against funding for facilities now that illegals are being apprehended at record rates.
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If only your pretend concern for children and fake outrage was so intense when Obama was President and he was stuffing children in cages. Only a Nazi would do that.
Obama met big resistance with that an Obama wasn't "housing" them in cages it was very short term holding facility, not months.... Trump is housing these kids in cages and not even giving them hygienic conditions. Not to mention Obama never separated families..

Quit your gas lighting.. you are too stupid to pull it off..
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Obama met big resistance with that an Obama wasn't "housing" them in cages it was very short term holding facility, not months.... Trump is housing these kids in cages and not even giving them hygienic conditions. Not to mention Obama never separated families..

Quit your gas lighting.. you are too stupid to pull it off..
Nothing you said is accurate... as usual.
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Nothing you said is accurate... as usual.
Yet you can't prove anything was wrong as usual... back to meme posting for you...
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One of the most comical things about watching the Democrat politicians lose touch with voters complete is watching them in the debates, shamelessly pander to illegal immigrants (people that majority legal immigrants largely resent) because they're desperate for votes from illegals.

It's very disappointing that you clowns can't see how all of your fake outrage and virtue signaling is just costing you votes from moderate voters.

You think you're opposing Trump, you can't understand that moderate voters don't care,... and really you're just getting Trump elected for a second term with your insanity.
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Yet you can't prove anything was wrong as usual... back to meme posting for you...
Pic from Obama Admin kids in cages
crockett fake outrage level then = 0

Record levels of illegals being apprehended, border facilities needing more funding,
democrats refusing to do anything besides use it for photo ops
crockett fake outrage level now = 100

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crockett fake outrage level = 0

they have to be detained. their parents told them to run.
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No, he tells the truth and backs-up his statements with links to reputable sources. You keep your head in the sand.

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He's a white country boy
What does his skin color, place of residence or gender have to do with it? Why should any of these count against him? Why are you assuming that any of this is true? Why should any of this affect your opinion of him? Are you a racist sexist?

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and was just recently looking for a place in the Ozarks which is basically KKK country.
Now you are lumping everyone that lives in Missouri, Arkansa into a KKK file?

You do realize that everything you said is Confirmation Bias in action, right? You assume, and you are too lazy to ask questions. You lazy Bra'... you fucking lazy.
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If only your pretend concern for children and fake outrage was so intense when Obama was President and he was stuffing children in cages. Only a Nazi would do that.

Forget what Obama did or might have done. Now your racist-in-chief Trump is doing it. Why are you letting it happen? Where is your outrage?
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Forget what Obama did or might have done. Now your racist-in-chief Trump is doing it. Why are you letting it happen? Where is your outrage?
your country won't let in illegals from south america... where is yours?
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Old 06-29-2019, 11:12 AM   #86
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Nothing to see here.. .just some Obama officials touring the very detention facilities that today, unhinged lunatics are calling Nazi Concentration Camps.... cause DRuMpphhhherrrph!!!



Everything that Dems claim to be outraged about at the border today was happening under Obama as well - the difference being of course, that Obama got a pass... and Orange Man Bad!!!

Fake concern
Fake outrage
Fake virtue signaling

This issue is just one more example of Democrats being fully out of step with voters who want illegal immigration stopped and borders secured. Your pretend to care but don't care when Dems vote time and time again against funding for facilities now that illegals are being apprehended at record rates.
Not true, tough guy. Of course the cages were built when Obama was in office, but this is not the point. Educate yourself https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/polit...ies/index.html
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Old 06-29-2019, 11:45 PM   #87
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1 person making $1k a week buys 1 hamburger for lunch, drives 1 car to work, rents 1 apartment ect..ect..


2 people making $500/week eat 2 hamburgers for lunch drive to work in 2 cars rent 2 apartments.


Do you now not see the flaw in your logic? More people spending money is what creates a strong economy not less people with more money..
The flaw in your thinking is obvious. The more people, the more relying on welfare, lower the wages, higher poverty, etc. The second video shows there are 3.5 billion people living on less than $2 a day. According to your logic with so many people they should all be rich.

1 person living on $1,000 buys abetter burger, drives a better car, rents a better apartment, pays more in tax, etc.
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The video is hyperbole.. no one is saying let everyone in the US. We are saying there isnt a need for a fabricated crisis that Trump created which is now killing people and causing children to be separated from their families.

Only a Nazi would continue to support that..
So can you give us the ultimate number in how many the West should accept?

You don't have a clue what a Nazi is. So stop being stupid.
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Nothing to see here.. .just some Obama officials touring the very detention facilities that today, unhinged lunatics are calling Nazi Concentration Camps.... cause DRuMpphhhherrrph!!!



Everything that Dems claim to be outraged about at the border today was happening under Obama as well - the difference being of course, that Obama got a pass... and Orange Man Bad!!!

Fake concern
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This issue is just one more example of Democrats being fully out of step with voters who want illegal immigration stopped and borders secured. Your pretend to care but don't care when Dems vote time and time again against funding for facilities now that illegals are being apprehended at record rates.
Can you give a link to proof Obama did this as a policy? I've searched and found nothing. https://www.google.com/search?ei=AVs...iz.upmHNEn-5LI
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So can you give us the ultimate number in how many the West should accept?

You don't have a clue what a Nazi is. So stop being stupid.
Can you give us the number of your IQ?
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The flaw in your thinking is obvious. The more people, the more relying on welfare, lower the wages, higher poverty, etc. The second video shows there are 3.5 billion people living on less than $2 a day. According to your logic with so many people they should all be rich.

1 person living on $1,000 buys abetter burger, drives a better car, rents a better apartment, pays more in tax, etc.
Its amazing you dont understand basic economics...but none of you right wingers do..
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The problem is where to keep people who cross the border illegally until they're returned?

Letting them all go is wrong. The worse will soon disappear, those with zero chance of being allowed to stay will disappear. So locking them up is the only solution and unless the border is strengthened in places where people have access to walk across. The only option.

What will Americans pay to support better facilities? None of the people complaining about the facilities wants to talk about how much more should be spent to keep them in a secure location.

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ICE facilities cost $133.99 a day per adult

According to ICE’s FY 2018 budget, on average it costs $133.99 a day to maintain one adult detention bed. But immigration groups have pegged the number closer to $200 a day.

The cost to maintain a family bed, which keeps mothers and children together in a family residential center, costs around $319 a day, according to DHS.

But as of April, children have been separated from their parents with much higher frequency, which has led to the creation of “tent cities” to hold thousands of separated children. Those beds cost $775 per person per night, HHS told NBC News.
Are you ready to pay $8,104,000‬ a day to keep the detainees in better secure accommodation? Multiply that by the average time of a detention to get the final figure.
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i agree! i think the home countries should be get sanctions to pay the bill and secure detention in their homeland. none of those prisons they have now. also their officials regulated until there is trust of no corruption.
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The problem is where to keep people who cross the border illegally until they're returned?

Letting them all go is wrong. The worse will soon disappear, those with zero chance of being allowed to stay will disappear. So locking them up is the only solution and unless the border is strengthened in places where people have access to walk across. The only option.

What will Americans pay to support better facilities? None of the people complaining about the facilities wants to talk about how much more should be spent to keep them in a secure location.



Are you ready to pay $8,104,000‬ a day to keep the detainees in better secure accommodation? Multiply that by the average time of a detention to get the final figure.
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The problem is where to keep people who cross the border illegally until they're returned?

Letting them all go is wrong. The worse will soon disappear, those with zero chance of being allowed to stay will disappear. So locking them up is the only solution and unless the border is strengthened in places where people have access to walk across. The only option.

What will Americans pay to support better facilities? None of the people complaining about the facilities wants to talk about how much more should be spent to keep them in a secure location.



Are you ready to pay $8,104,000‬ a day to keep the detainees in better secure accommodation? Multiply that by the average time of a detention to get the final figure.
Yet Trump lowered taxes when he knew he'd take on this expensive. So.. can't complain it cost too much if he implemented the new policy of catch and hold but also lowered taxes required to do it..

Finding money to pay for his policies is his problem .

Oh and for the record the company holding these kids is getting paid over $700/day for each kid, yet they cant afford to give them a toothbrush and a shower..


Get fucking real...
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Yet Trump lowered taxes when he knew he'd take on this expensive. So.. can't complain it cost too much if he implemented the new policy of catch and hold but also lowered taxes required to do it..

Finding money to pay for his policies is his problem .

Oh and for the record the company holding these kids is getting paid over $700/day for each kid, yet they cant afford to give them a toothbrush and a shower..


Get fucking real...
Dropping taxes was wrong and I've always said that. I like the extra tax people have to pay for buying goods made in the 3rd world by cheap labour and have repeatedly said so.

Giving the contract to private firms is wrong, but. https://qz.com/1586161/private-priso...fits-from-ice/ the locals government put ICE into a position they had to turn to private companies. Couldn't find the $700 a day figure in a Google search, so can you give me a link?
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Its amazing you dont understand basic economics...but none of you right wingers do..
So more immigrants working on low wages and illegally is good for the economy. Please explain. Include the bill for welfare of Americans without jobs, low wages and subsequent low taxes, crime, housing, education, etc.

The problem is your logic is out dated. 1 person doesn't equal 1 job available anymore. Computers and robots are replacing workers by the day, it's the next phase of the industrial revolution. Companies aren't recruiting in good jobs at the same pace the population is expanding. It is getting worse. McDonalds has installed computer screens for ordering, soon it will replace workers with machines making burgers, just one example of a huge trend.

So please tackle this one.

I've explained the need for tariffs and how it is a tax on those who buy goods made in the 3rd world. To pay for the loss from America.
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Can you give us the number of your IQ?
It's higher than yours because I know the difference between a legal immigrant and an illegal immigrant. Something you don't know.
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paul give up already... you are making tax statements without reviewing the data the government has gfys financial analyst
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