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Old 07-20-2003, 11:31 PM   #1
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HIV on the rise?

I just saw a commercial on TV
it said the way things are going by the year 2010
45 million more people will have HIV
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Old 07-20-2003, 11:32 PM   #2
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I heard the government made hiv back in the 60's, and released it in new york, africa, and a few other places targeting african americans and homosexuals ...it was an interesting story, ill find the link and post it here later
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Old 07-20-2003, 11:32 PM   #3
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No it is falling since they cured it.
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My medical ethics professor said that during our college re-union, if half of the people don't show up, means they have died of AIDS. Thats pretty scary thought
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90% of Africans by 2010 will have HIV.
By 2020, Population in Africa is to drop 50% or so of what it is now.
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Have they found anything with crabs?
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Old 07-21-2003, 12:44 AM   #7
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Have they found anything with crabs?
By the year 2005, it is estimated that almost 94% of all Boneprone 4 life members will have crabs
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90% of Africans by 2010 will have HIV.
By 2020, Population in Africa is to drop 50% or so of what it is now.
HIV is nature's answer to overpopulation.

They will find a cure by the time HIV did it's job.. strange
but that's how things work.
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Old 07-21-2003, 01:01 AM   #9
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By the year 2005, it is estimated that almost 94% of all Boneprone 4 life members will have crabs
it's a fact that by the end of 2003 you'll be flamed into a fetal position and have 17 names banned from GFY lol
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it's a fact that by the end of 2003 you'll be flamed into a fetal position and have 17 names banned from GFY lol
at least I won't have the crabs
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Old 07-21-2003, 01:03 AM   #11
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watch out for oxygen he is a scammer!
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Old 07-21-2003, 01:04 AM   #12
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90% of Africans by 2010 will have HIV.
By 2020, Population in Africa is to drop 50% or so of what it is now.
Would it be wrong to say this is needed? Perhaps with half the people they already have they could manage to feed themselves? Who knows...
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Old 07-21-2003, 01:05 AM   #13
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I think after 20 years of being told safe sex safe sex people are just tired of it and want to have sex without holding back.
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at least I won't have the crabs
Well while I'm in Miami, Cuarcao, Vancouver and other cities liven like a pimp you'll be hopfully promoted to a position where at some point in time you'll be able to hand these out the drive thru window! Aim high man, you can make it, you won't be assisstant fry guy forever!

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I just saw a commercial on TV
it said the way things are going by the year 2010
45 million more people will have HIV
Yep, few years ago more people with HIV died than people that contracted it. Well guess what, we have medicines now that let you live with it for much longer. So instead of an equal or greater number of people with HIV dying more and more people have it every year. Oh joy.
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Old 07-21-2003, 01:10 AM   #16
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Well while I'm in Miami, Cuarcao, Vancouver and other cities liven like a pimp you'll be hopfully promoted to a position where at some point in time you'll be able to hand these out the drive thru window! Aim high man, you can make it, you won't be assisstant fry guy forever!

You are such an idiot. Grow up dude, this is not the 4th grade. For your info I have my own company, which does pretty well for me, considering I have 3 cars (X5, S500, and a boxter) and a house which is 10 times bigger than your parent's house where you prob live. Grow up "pimp"
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You are such an idiot. Grow up dude, this is not the 4th grade. For your info I have my own company, which does pretty well for me, considering I have 3 cars (X5, S500, and a boxter) and a house which is 10 times bigger than your parent's house where you prob live. Grow up "pimp"
scale models?

Dude.. you operate from your parents house bedroom.
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Old 07-21-2003, 01:17 AM   #18
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scale models?

Dude.. you operate from your parents house bedroom.

your'e good
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Old 07-21-2003, 01:22 AM   #19
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You are such an idiot. Grow up dude, this is not the 4th grade. For your info I have my own company, which does pretty well for me, considering I have 3 cars (X5, S500, and a boxter) and a house which is 10 times bigger than your parent's house where you prob live. Grow up "pimp"
So are you going to offer the super size?

So you base how good your company does by how many cars you have? Sounds like a good biz model! You know you can own a really nice car and still be poor, not sure if you were made aware of this!

And going 4th grade as you said it hmmmm, bringing parents into it, that's about 2nd grade.
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i used to do a lot of HIV education work. I have a theory that part of the reason condom usage amongst younger groups in the US and UK is dropping again is that with modern drug treatments we now have a generation of people in the US and UK that have never actually seen a loved one die of AIDS, never had the horrid images on their tv screens unless it is framed as something that happens in far off Africa. In short, they aren't scared anymore.
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HIV is nature's answer to overpopulation.

They will find a cure by the time HIV did it's job.. strange
but that's how things work.
What an utterly insensitive & sick thing to say.
"You got HIV because it's Nature's way."

Not funny or even amusing on any level.
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HIV is nature's answer to overpopulation.

They will find a cure by the time HIV did it's job.. strange
but that's how things work.
... easy statement to make when you got tested negative ... but no doubt it´s true.

... if africa would have more money a cure would have gotten developed already, but when there is no buyer who´d be interested in selling a product ?
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Old 07-21-2003, 09:56 PM   #23
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Well, at least there's some

GOOD NEWS.
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What an utterly insensitive & sick thing to say.
"You got HIV because it's Nature's way."

Not funny or even amusing on any level.
its the truth
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GOOD NEWS.

More suffering, the faster those muslins die off, the less terrorists there will be


oh and Africa, it will be so beautiful when all the black people have dyed off,

Ill build my vacation home there and watch the elephants and giraffes play in my back yard
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its the truth
You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the ass!
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You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the ass!
where do you think it comes from? its nature's way of trying to control a growing population. didn't you take grade 10 biology?
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where do you think it comes from? its nature's way of trying to control a growing population. didn't you take grade 10 biology?
Tell you what...*YOU* lose some friends & family to hiv and then come back and let's see if you can be so damn cavalier about hiv then!
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Tell you what...*YOU* lose some friends & family to hiv and then come back and let's see if you can be so damn cavalier about hiv then!
you don't know me so keep your fucking mouth shut
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what is this big fuss, HIV cure has been found, here is the drug company's official website

http://www.armenicum.am
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what is this big fuss, HIV cure has been found, here is the drug companies official website

http://www.armenicum.am
is it an actual cure or just like all the drug cocktails that are out there now?
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Old 07-22-2003, 01:41 AM   #32
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the sad fact is that all the fucked up muslim countries from pakistan to Algeria have low aids cases.
They dont fuck around too much, prostitution is illegal there

African is being taken over by muslims, and so is europe

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is it an actual cure or just like all the drug cocktails that are out there now?
well, they did clinical trials on AIDS patients from jail in Russia. And after the treatment, the HIV virus was not detectable and their T cell count was up. So I am guessing it is one of the most good treatments for AIDS patients today.
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you don't know me so keep your fucking mouth shut
Oh stuff it dude. You're the one that jumped on MY comment, not me on yours. So don't start something in a thread and then start whining.
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Oh stuff it dude. You're the one that jumped on MY comment, not me on yours. So don't start something in a thread and then start whining.
i'm not whining i'm just telling you to shut your mouth. where do you think hiv came from? from nature dumbass.
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well, they did clinical trials on AIDS patients from jail in Russia. And after the treatment, the HIV virus was not detectable and their T cell count was up. So I am guessing it is one of the most good treatments for AIDS patients today.
does it have fda approval yet?
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duh, of course it's natural. unless you think that God decided to punish the homos, or you think that the Government produced it.

the stupidity here never ends.

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does it have fda approval yet?
Na, it's been discovered in the Republic of Armenia and I don't think it will be offered in the States in any time soon. But they have a big clinic there for foreigners. I think Magic Johnson was thinking of going there.
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90% of Africans by 2010 will have HIV.
By 2020, Population in Africa is to drop 50% or so of what it is now.
Quite frankly, HIV will do more good to Africa than it will bad.

It will HOPEFULLY teach these africans to start using the condoms the aid works give them and not to have 20 kids.

I heard on TV, Nigeria has 120 million people in it with about 90% of them under the povety line with only 1 meal a day. And they have lots of OIL bringing in billions a year. If it was a normal Europeon country with a sustainable population it would be a great country. But instead they breed and breed and breed some more till they can't susstain themselfs and then we start seeing them on TV asking for money.
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Quite frankly, HIV will do more good to Africa than it will bad.

It will HOPEFULLY teach these africans to start using the condoms the aid works give them and not to have 20 kids.

I heard on TV, Nigeria has 120 million people in it with about 90% of them under the povety line with only 1 meal a day. And they have lots of OIL bringing in billions a year. If it was a normal Europeon country with a sustainable population it would be a great country. But instead they breed and breed and breed some more till they can't susstain themselfs and then we start seeing them on TV asking for money.
there's a lot of corruption in most of africa. those billions go to the government and their friends.
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Quite frankly, HIV will do more good to Africa than it will bad.

It will HOPEFULLY teach these africans to start using the condoms the aid works give them and not to have 20 kids.

I heard on TV, Nigeria has 120 million people in it with about 90% of them under the povety line with only 1 meal a day. And they have lots of OIL bringing in billions a year. If it was a normal Europeon country with a sustainable population it would be a great country. But instead they breed and breed and breed some more till they can't susstain themselfs and then we start seeing them on TV asking for money.
Well it's not that easy to stop breeding. I did a project on this in college, on India's population. I mean take China, it took a long time and strict policies, before they could contain their population. Poverty always correlates with having lots of kids. The mother and the father being poor, have lots of kids, so they can support them when they get older. Also the lack of counterseptives and condoms, leads to this.
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AIDS reported on the rise throughout Middle East
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtri...reaking_9.html
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i'm not whining i'm just telling you to shut your mouth. where do you think hiv came from? from nature dumbass.
You're going to tell me that it's natural (from nature) for a person in their 20's to have such an impaired immune system that something as harmless as a cold to most people can kill them?

It's also natural to get a form of cancer that is usually only seen in men over 60 who live in Northern Italy?

It's natural for people to die from Cancers & Pnuemonia over the last 25 years that was unheard of BEFORE then?

You may think you're hot shit telling someone to shut their mouth, but you're not giving a factual explanation in anything you write. So hurl the insults if you must..that's about the best I guess I can expect from you.
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You're going to tell me that it's natural (from nature) for a person in their 20's to have such an impaired immune system that something as harmless as a cold to most people can kill them?

It's also natural to get a form of cancer that is usually only seen in men over 60 who live in Northern Italy?

It's natural for people to die from Cancers & Pnuemonia over the last 25 years that was unheard of BEFORE then?

You may think you're hot shit telling someone to shut their mouth, but you're not giving a factual explanation in anything you write. So hurl the insults if you must..that's about the best I guess I can expect from you.
nature has its way of controlling populations. again, take a grade 10 biology course and learn about it.
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nature has its way of controlling populations. again, take a grade 10 biology course and learn about it.
I have to agree with him and I have a Master's in Biology. Whenever there is a population boom, which is occuring in Africa, there is some natural way of controlling it. Same thing applies to the animal kingdom. I know it is cruel, but hey thats nature.
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nature has its way of controlling populations. again, take a grade 10 biology course and learn about it.
Freaking insightful post. wow!

"Duh..Death is natural, so if hiv kills people, then it's natural."

Do you understand the difference between death from NATURAL & UNNATURAL causes?
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I have to agree with him and I have a Master's in Biology. Whenever there is a population boom, which is occuring in Africa, there is some natural way of controlling it. Same thing applies to the animal kingdom. I know it is cruel, but hey thats nature.
You think a population boom created HIV?
And you have a Masters in Biology?

I'm glad you are well educated, but didn't you also post this:

"Na, it's been discovered in the Republic of Armenia and I don't think it will be offered in the States in any time soon. But they have a big clinic there for foreigners. I think Magic Johnson was thinking of going there."

Armenia has a big HIV clinic that is so popular that Magic Johnson is going to go to it? Where do you come up with information like this?
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You think a population boom created HIV?
And you have a Masters in Biology?

I'm glad you are well educated, but didn't you also post this:

"Na, it's been discovered in the Republic of Armenia and I don't think it will be offered in the States in any time soon. But they have a big clinic there for foreigners. I think Magic Johnson was thinking of going there."

Armenia has a big HIV clinic that is so popular that Magic Johnson is going to go to it? Where do you come up with information like this?
I do not come up with any kind of information, the drug is called Armenicum and the website is http://www.armenicum.am. And Micahel Johnson, indeed was planning to go to Armenia and try this new drug. I do not know if he actually went, but there was a news article about it. What's this post have to do with my previous post? I certainly do not see the connection here.

As for the population and HIV, I did not say population boom created HIV, stop creating things and calm down. How do you think the population for example of deers are contained in the wild? More lions and tigers are born, cause there is lot of food, meaning deer. Then the deer population decreases towards its equilibrium. Same thing goes for humans, except we cant release lions to prey on humans, so the nature have HIV virus, influenza virus and other disease causing microbes to contain the human population. I know it is cruel and unusual to think this way, but thats how nature works. Try to think out of the box for a change

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Old 07-22-2003, 02:35 AM   #49
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I do not come up with any kind of information, the drug is called Armenicum and the website is http://www.armenicum.am. What's this post have to do with my previous post? I certainly do not see the connection here.

Don't let my posts fool ya. I'm calm. I write in a more impassioned way than most I think.

ok..step by step.

Read the intro on the clinic in Armenia..and they are touting Iodine as something that stops HIV. Interesting..but don't know of many main stream docs that will sign off on that.

My very first post on this was in reply to someone who had written that this is nature's way of thinning the herd..hiv that is.
And it bothers me that so many people seem to take HIV very lightly. It is a very dangerous killer that NEED NOT BE. Thus my opposal to lightly throwing around the phrase "hiv is nature's way of thinning the herd."

Of course death & disease comes from nature, but it is NOT natural or nature specific for the body to behave the way it does when infected with hiv. That is MY point, and to date, no one will acknowledge that.

The hiv virus is very similiar to SIV (Simian) virus that monkeys have. And the consensus of opinion seems to be that somewhere, the virus cross jumped species from monkeys to man.
An infected monkey bit a human or someone ate infected monkey. (YUCK! grin)

If nothing else comes out of this thread, I just hope more and more people who read this becomes more enlightened and/or educated about hiv.
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Na, it's been discovered in the Republic of Armenia and I don't think it will be offered in the States in any time soon. But they have a big clinic there for foreigners. I think Magic Johnson was thinking of going there.
P.S. I truly do not think Magic Johnson is going to this clinic in Armenia to be treated with iodine for his hiv.

For one thing, his viral load has been undetectable for years now and is in very good health.

Iodine does not kill hiv.
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