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Old 11-24-2008, 05:55 PM   #51
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First of all, I'd like to thank the serious businesspeople out there who have read my marketing tips the first week I've posted them. I've gotten many positive comments. Among them:

Bruce you are a idiot

Sweet jesus this guy is a idiot

Sounds interesting but you are a tool Bruce

Really nice... Thanks for sharing...but google told me the same

Bruce go die

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I will SUBSCRIBE to your marketing newsletter (Yeah Right)


I agree...you are a idiot Bruce




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Old 11-24-2008, 05:56 PM   #52
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As someone who has done some biz with Forrest, I can say he's actually one of the least rude people in the business...

This post tells me pretty much everything I needed to know about you...
thanks sykk

i was actually quite polite when canceling our meeting as I had a meeting with a large program about processing

guess i made the right decision
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what tips are you talking of?
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Old 11-24-2008, 06:41 PM   #57
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what tips are you talking of?
sign up for his all knowing marketing tips newsletter and you too can make bazillions on the interweb
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BRUCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I got you 502 views bro

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"We don't believe in marketing just for the sake of "branding". Branding doesn't sell, creative marketing does sell."







Because branding can't possibly increase your profits by as much as 25%... and it costs SO much less money to get a new customer than to retain one. Bah... branding... I mean... whats the point of it? Didn't do shit for Nike, or Coca-Cola, or Apple, or Playboy....
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Because branding can't possibly increase your profits by as much as 25%... and it costs SO much less money to retain a customer than to get a new one. Bah... branding... I mean... whats the point of it? Didn't do shit for Nike, or Coca-Cola, or Apple, or Playboy....
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We have ALL seen it enough times to recognize it as something we have seen before, when you post your redundant "news"... most of the times years ago.

You are a mix between a snake oil salesman and a Nigerian Scammer. You are here to cheat money out of those that dont see through your bullshit, and I HATE people that do business that way
Keep building up that post count man. Who the fuck are you anyway? Do you ever say anything nice on this board? Your opinion is worth about as much as those nothings Damage X and the Oprano morons.
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:19 PM   #62
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Post proof or apologize. Otherwise I will do my best to see you banned here as well.
Allow me to correct myself, Oprano posted my pm's. But it doesn't matter, as they say here in Thailand, same, same.

Another thing you and the Oprano jerks have in common is the thought that they are all powerful. What are you Damage the "wonderful wizard of porn"?
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:21 PM   #63
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and you just proved my post as being spot on

Forest as I recall, you requested the meeting. And then you were about as rude as anyone I've ever thought about doing business with. Excuse me for sending you the newsletter before you unsubscribed. It was a mistake. I only meant to send that out to people who would understand sound marketing concepts.
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You know times are tight when your getting trolled by a newsletter spammer AND we have to share em.

Forest if you need that kind of marketing let me know Ill buy you those 40K MLM ebooks that the fountain of knowledge is being drawn from.
Gonzo and I heard all about how ethical you are man. I was speaking with one of the most respected people in this industry last night, who will go nameless. Scum, slimeball, asshole, jerk and dick was how you were described. And those were the nice things he had to say. Your board is known by the good and ethical people in this business as a sewer and he told me to steer clear. And you and Toby were the ones who posted my pm's, not Ask Damage. So the only thing that makes you a bigger dick then them is that you break the law. Oh, I forgot fat bastard, sorry.
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"We don't believe in marketing just for the sake of "branding". Branding doesn't sell, creative marketing does sell."







Juicy I thought I'd never respond to one of your posts, but I can't resist. You are the post whore of all post whores. If you insult me it just makes me feel better about myself.
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Because branding can't possibly increase your profits by as much as 25%... and it costs SO much less money to get a new customer than to retain one. Bah... branding... I mean... whats the point of it? Didn't do shit for Nike, or Coca-Cola, or Apple, or Playboy....
Well, if you'd read the entire thing instead of just a snipet from it you'd understand Andrea. It works if you have billions of dollars. But if you don't there are better ways to market.
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Well, if you'd read the entire thing instead of just a snipet from it you'd understand Andrea. It works if you have billions of dollars. But if you don't there are better ways to market.
No, actually- I did read the whole thing - not just a snippet - and it blew my mind. Marketing is a whole number of things, and branding is one of those things. It's a sound marketing strategy to build brand loyalty, if for no other reason than it costs less to retain an existing customer than it does to acquire a new one.

ANY good marketing plan should include a strategy to entice existing customers to not only stay with your product but to recommend it to others - as well as to draw in new clientele. But establishing a brand identity WILL bring in new clientele - even for a small company. It separates the wheat from the chaff and makes you stand out amongst your competition.
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Not to add salt to the wounds but the hothardcash.com sites are some of the worst sites ever. Even worse is that the 2257 address is listed in Thailand, with Thai content.


Not the work of a brilliant businessman
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Not to add salt to the wounds but the hothardcash.com sites are some of the worst sites ever. Even worse is that the 2257 address is listed in Thailand, with Thai content.


Not the work of a brilliant businessman
haha someone should turn him in to Thai authorities...
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Well, if you'd read the entire thing instead of just a snipet from it you'd understand Andrea. It works if you have billions of dollars. But if you don't there are better ways to market.
You mean like making a complete fool out of yourself on half the adult webmaster boards out there? Yes, I agree, great exposure.

Here you go Brucey, buy this, it'll set you back much less than 40 grand and actually teach you something. Once you've read it, come back and play marketer with us.
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Gonzo and I heard all about how ethical you are man. I was speaking with one of the most respected people in this industry last night, who will go nameless. Scum, slimeball, asshole, jerk and dick was how you were described. And those were the nice things he had to say. Your board is known by the good and ethical people in this business as a sewer and he told me to steer clear. And you and Toby were the ones who posted my pm's, not Ask Damage. So the only thing that makes you a bigger dick then them is that you break the law. Oh, I forgot fat bastard, sorry.
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Keep up the good work!!!

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Keep building up that post count man. Who the fuck are you anyway? Do you ever say anything nice on this board? Your opinion is worth about as much as those nothings Damage X and the Oprano morons.

I sell 40k ebooks - want some? I just downloaded a new batch through TPB
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Forest as I recall, you requested the meeting. And then you were about as rude as anyone I've ever thought about doing business with. Excuse me for sending you the newsletter before you unsubscribed. It was a mistake. I only meant to send that out to people who would understand sound marketing concepts.
Bruce

you recall wrong. I agreed to meet with you after you approached my partner and I and i only agreed to it because Im a nice guy and dont like to say no to anyone.

Ive been marketing in adult successfully for over 9 years and I doubt there is anything you could teach me

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Keep building up that post count man. Who the fuck are you anyway? Do you ever say anything nice on this board? Your opinion is worth about as much as those nothings Damage X and the Oprano morons.
see bruce you dont have a clue.

keep digging your grave. Every single potential client who reads how you act in these threads just shake there head and add you to the do not do business with list

but then again your marketing is working! just not in the way you would like

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Because branding can't possibly increase your profits by as much as 25%... and it costs SO much less money to get a new customer than to retain one. Bah... branding... I mean... whats the point of it? Didn't do shit for Nike, or Coca-Cola, or Apple, or Playboy....
how dare you contradict the brilliant marketing mind of Bruce

his ebooks know all and see all

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No, actually- I did read the whole thing - not just a snippet - and it blew my mind. Marketing is a whole number of things, and branding is one of those things. It's a sound marketing strategy to build brand loyalty, if for no other reason than it costs less to retain an existing customer than it does to acquire a new one.

ANY good marketing plan should include a strategy to entice existing customers to not only stay with your product but to recommend it to others - as well as to draw in new clientele. But establishing a brand identity WILL bring in new clientele - even for a small company. It separates the wheat from the chaff and makes you stand out amongst your competition.
There goes those riches promised by that ebook ad on Ebay.
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what are you talking about. Bruce makes BILLIONs off of his websites thats why he can offer such great deals on his marketing efforts
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Juicy I thought I'd never respond to one of your posts, but I can't resist. You are the post whore of all post whores. If you insult me it just makes me feel better about myself.
thats right poke juicy in the eye with a stick

you really are not to bright are you?

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see bruce you dont have a clue.

keep digging your grave. Every single potential client who reads how you act in these threads just shake there head and add you to the do not do business with list

but then again your marketing is working! just not in the way you would like

He has a point. I have no horse in this race but your not coming across as professional at all.
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bruce i am gonna rammmmmmmmmm my 5 inch cock down your nostril!!!!!!!!!!!
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bruce i am gonna rammmmmmmmmm my 5 inch cock down your nostril!!!!!!!!!!!
put a banana in the other nostril while you do it

and take pictures or it didnt happen

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Actually, now that I think about it...Bruce has probably actually put some money in my pocket...

Bruce, which ebook was your favorite? I'm willing to bet it was one of my titles I wrote or co-wrote
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No, actually- I did read the whole thing - not just a snippet - and it blew my mind. Marketing is a whole number of things, and branding is one of those things. It's a sound marketing strategy to build brand loyalty, if for no other reason than it costs less to retain an existing customer than it does to acquire a new one.

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I couldn't have said it better. Keep reading the tips and the newsletters. I don't know why anything I wrote would have blown your mind. I think we agree on much more then we disagree on.
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see bruce you dont have a clue.

keep digging your grave. Every single potential client who reads how you act in these threads just shake there head and add you to the do not do business with list

but then again your marketing is working! just not in the way you would like

Forest if you were so successful you wouldn't be spending all day on line replying to your own shit on these posts. My god, you have way too much time on your hands. I check this once a day to see how many stupid, uninformed comments can be collected.
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you recall wrong. I agreed to meet with you after you approached my partner and I and i only agreed to it because Im a nice guy and dont like to say no to anyone.

Ive been marketing in adult successfully for over 9 years and I doubt there is anything you could teach me

Obviously not Forest, you know it all.
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OMG, I've known Forest for way too long and I have to say that I have never, ever, ever known him to be rude, nor have I known anyone else to say he was rude. EVER! It's just not in his nature.

Calling Forest rude is like calling me tall and thin ;)

Carry on.
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Old 11-25-2008, 12:33 PM   #95
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Even more fun when they take place on many other boards at the same time.
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Old 11-25-2008, 12:45 PM   #96
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I couldn't have said it better. Keep reading the tips and the newsletters. I don't know why anything I wrote would have blown your mind. I think we agree on much more then we disagree on.
The point is, that you didn't say it at all. I don't think I need to read the tips and newsletters, actually. I'm confident that I'm more than familiar with marketing concepts and strategies. And we DO fundamentally disagree.

"We don't believe in marketing just for the sake of "branding". Branding doesn't sell, creative marketing does sell."

Not to turn this into a Marketing 101 lesson, but:

1. ALL marketing is a creative venture on some level.
2. "Branding" is at the heart of creative marketing.

With no brand awareness, with no brand consistency, with no brand relevance, you're throwing away money in your marketing efforts. You become a sheep amid all the other sheep.

Your job as a marketing professional is to discover and understand your clients customer, set your client apart from their competition, create a message that is relevant to that customer, and to deliver it frequently, creatively and consistently. If you do that, the brand builds itself. But to say that branding doesn't sell? That's cutting off your nose to spite your face. "Branding" is the ultimate goal of marketing.
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Old 11-25-2008, 12:49 PM   #97
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The point is, that you didn't say it at all. I don't think I need to read the tips and newsletters, actually. I'm confident that I'm more than familiar with marketing concepts and strategies. And we DO fundamentally disagree.

"We don't believe in marketing just for the sake of "branding". Branding doesn't sell, creative marketing does sell."

Not to turn this into a Marketing 101 lesson, but:

1. ALL marketing is a creative venture on some level.
2. "Branding" is at the heart of creative marketing.

With no brand awareness, with no brand consistency, with no brand relevance, you're throwing away money in your marketing efforts. You become a sheep amid all the other sheep.

Your job as a marketing professional is to discover and understand your clients customer, set your client apart from their competition, create a message that is relevant to that customer, and to deliver it frequently, creatively and consistently. If you do that, the brand builds itself. But to say that branding doesn't sell? That's cutting off your nose to spite your face. "Branding" is the ultimate goal of marketing.
you do realize you are talking to a dipshit right? he and banana bitch wouldn't know even the difference between marketing or branding.

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Old 11-25-2008, 01:49 PM   #99
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OMG, I've known Forest for way too long and I have to say that I have never, ever, ever known him to be rude, nor have I known anyone else to say he was rude. EVER! It's just not in his nature.

Calling Forest rude is like calling me tall and thin ;)

Carry on.
have I told you I love you lately? ;)

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Old 11-25-2008, 01:52 PM   #100
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Forest if you were so successful you wouldn't be spending all day on line replying to your own shit on these posts. My god, you have way too much time on your hands. I check this once a day to see how many stupid, uninformed comments can be collected.
see bruce

unlike you I work smart not hard. I have a staff and a manager to manage that staff so I can market and drum up new business with a formula that actually works. I have the luxury of taking my gf to lunch and going to the gym and trade my stocks all while making money in the adult internet.

If you want to pay me 40k Id be more then happy to show u the secrets. It would be a much better investment then your ebooks you keep copy and pasting
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