TuffCall

Just thought I'd share with you. I've seen posts in the past about taking human growth hormones so I took the plunge. Best thing I've ever done. Ive been taking them daily for 60 days now and I feel and look amazing. I've dropped 28 pounds, hair is growing thicker, wrinkles disappearing and an overall GOOD feeling. I've had a bum hip since my mid 30's (I'm 45 now) and it feels almost 100% better. I had high blood pressure - no more. I had type II diabetes (now my glucose numbers are perfect) . A little expensive......but you can't put a price on your health! I'm lovin' life!

BVF

I can't see myself sticking myself with a needle....I'm 38 now and working out hard and I've dropped almost 30 pounds this summer....Hopefully by the time I'm 40, there will be some kind of patch that I can use because I can't see myself giving myself an injection.

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There are injection pens with tiny needles that you could use now, and they absolutely painless...

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TuffCall

That worried me the first couple of times. But the needle is so small and it only goes into the very top part of the skin ( I do it below my stomach area) Honestly, I can't feel it at all. Not a bit.

BVF

Ok I can deal with that...I thought I'd have to be drawing fluid into a syringe and injecting myself in the arm....I'd rather work out to DEATH than do that....But I think I can manage that...I guess it's like when my mother uses that prick thingy to check her sugar...

So how much is this therapy going to cost me?

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TuffCall

yep that finger prick feels worse. I had to check my sugar daily. That actually felt a little worse than the hgh injection.

It is legal with a prescription. I have a good contact for legal hgh made my Eli Lilly and the doctor if you are interested.

96ukssob

nope, but you can get testosterone supplements from your doctor if your test levels are low... unless your 70, its doubtful

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Wow dude, that is completely inaccurate. You can get HGH and test legally prescribed, and guys as young as their late 20's/early 30's get it due to low levels...

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tical

testosterone in men starts to decline at around age 30

you don't have to be completely out of range to get a prescription for testosterone or these hormones if your doctor knows what he's doing and listens to you... just because you're within range of testosterone or igf-1 (hgh marker) doesn't necessarily mean it is benefiting you the way it *should*

Pleasurepays

you wouldn't be feeling anything in 2 months on HGH unless you were taking absurd amounts. you're delusional or lying with everything you said. you won't magically drop 28 pounds or anything else you describe.

and since you said "taking them daily" rather than "injecting 1.2 i.u.'s per day of BrandName"... one could assume you are talking about secretegogues rather than injections of actual hgh, which are also bullshit.

its called the placebo effect son.

tical

I'm 28 and am on T injections... I have no problem with them and the difference is night and day compared to how I used to feel. My test was naturally low.

This isn't just about muscle mass or sex drive, there are plenty of other reasons to consider hormone therapy under the supervision of a GOOD doctor. It is a quality of life thing. If it ain't broke don't fix it, but I can pretty much guarantee that any man over the age of 35 jumping on testosterone therapy just to "feel it out" will probably not want to go back to being without it.

It would be like going from cable back to dial up... or from cell phones back to pagers.

Robbie

Heh-heh. I've never heard of anyone getting those kind of results in 60 days. HGH is kinda subtle. I personally was using it for almost a full year before I could visibly see the results.

The times I have read are always 6 months to a year depending on the person's physiology. If you dropped 28 pounds in 60 days, your wrinkles have disappeared and your hair is thicker...it's not all due to the HGH.

First it sounds like you may be taking thyroid medication when it comes to that much weigh loss that fast. Which would also make you feel like a million bucks from regaining your metabolism.

The HGH is sort of like the icing on the cake. But what you're describing are massive changes in a short amount of time. Unless you were obese and the 28 pounds isn't that big of percentage of weight.

What are your before and after stats? Because seriously...you shouldn't be seeing those kinds of results.

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EscortBiz

2 months gh = nada takes a good 6 months of 2+ iu's to see feel anything I dont care what brand you take even if you take the almighty geno

but as long as you feel better and look better thats all that matters

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Spunky

Next you'll be banging speedballs.I couldn't see injecting myself with that

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I'm injecting 2 iu's every evening before bed. Yes, I do feel better.
No, I am not lying or delusional. Yes, I have dropped 28 pounds. I have started walking a mile to 2 miles after the first week, once my hip started feeling better.
No I am not delusional or lying.

My hair is thicker, my fingernails grow like mad. Blood glucose numbers are great. Blood pressure is down. Hip feels great which now allows me to walk daily.

I am 6'3 I was 270 and I am now around 240. I have taken NOTHING else except 2 iu's of saizen daily and today is my 61'st day.

Those are my facts. Believe it or not.

EscortBiz

the walking the mile or two is whats helping, being active helps with many things, thats why everyone is fucked up in these days, noone walks anywhere

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Robbie

I agree with EscortBiz. The physical activity is what's kicking ass. And I'm guessing that you might be eating a tad healthier as well.

Stay on the HGH and trust me...it's gonna kick in full blast in a few months. Probably just in time as you reach a physical plateau from your new active lifestyle.

Good luck brother. You're adding years to your life by getting healthy.

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TuffCall

Thanks I plan on it. I'm going to use it for as long as I can afford it.

Cyandin

I'm not one to dish out the complements left and right, but you really make some of the best posts on here, which is why I ALWAYS click on your threads and like to see your takes on things. I swear CM doesn't help at all either.....I swear.

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I'm working on a way that will allow everyone who reads my posts to have CM instantly knock on their door and allow them to titty fuck her. Just working out the bugs now...

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TheSenator

I inject BJJ at least four times a week.

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Which brings up my question. If you would, what are the costs?



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Cyandin

/me prays for this reeeeaaaaaaallly hard.

d-null

I believe Tuffcall's results, you people need to remember that there is individual differences in response due to where the person was coming from, his normal hgh endogenous levels may have been extremely low to nil, which would explain his getting such a quick favorable response.


Just like if a 19 year old were to inject 200 mg of testosterone per week, they probably wouldn't see much results for at least a few weeks, because their natural levels were already fairly high, but if you take a dude with extremely low natural testosterone and gave him those 200mg testosterone shots per week he would probably notice it within a couple of days.

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What kind? omnitrope? Somatropin, Jintropin? 191 or 192 peptides? How many IU's a day are you taking?
Duke

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Very interesting thread ........ thanks guys.

Major (Tom)

Excatly. Any good doctor will write you testin, or androgel, or cypionate if you dont mind injections. You just have to monitor your psa.
Duke

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d-null

he already said he is injecting 2IU per day

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Yea, 2 iu's is low. Should be in the 10 range. Should also supplment with long r IGF-1 too.
You know its working when you start to get carpel tunnel syndrome. ;)
Duke

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just saw it now. sorry
duke

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d-null

actually I don't think 2iu is low for an aging guy, should be alot of benefits at that dosage with less side effects


igf1 is still basically a research chemical and most legit doctors aren't using that

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The cost depends on the dr as alot of dr's make you pay for the HGH in their office. It's upwards of 250-325 a vial of omnitrope which is 5.8 mg's and about a cc when you add the bacteriastatic water and make it a solution. At 2 iu's a day it should last a 3 weeks at least per vial.
Duke

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Major (Tom)

ohh for sure.. The igf-1 you get yourself.
Duke

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Major (Tom)

2-4 iu's is for rejuvination. 4-10 is for anabolic/rejuvination purposes. It all depends on your purse, your doc and what you want to acheive. Or, you may walk away from the ordeal with bigger hands and bigger feet, and some joint pain, and not much else.
Duke

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Mr. Billy

Interesting topic BTW. I am in my mid 50's and fairly out of shape. I am fascinated recently with bodybuilding. I don't know if I have the discipline to do it or not, but I've begun reading up on it, and I recently attended a local competition sponsored by the International Natural Bodybuilding Association. Seeing men and women actually display the bodybuilding physique in front of you onstage is breathtaking.

I have some of the older Golds Gym books with Arnold in them and stuff.

I was recently talking to a friend about it and he mentioned the movie Bigger Stronger Faster. He said it deals with weight lifting and talks about the steroid issue and hormone and chemical use.

I rented Pumping Iron and Bigger Stronger Faster today, and will watch them over the next few days.

The International Natural Bodybuilding Association has more shows around the country and so there is more of a chance of one being in your area. Of course this group promotes the view that natural is better and it prohibits the use of certain drugs and chemicals.

The International Federation of Bodybuilding is the one that Arnold is in and they have some absolutely huge guys like Ferrigno and some others, but you will likely have to travel to see a show or competition. I think they have several in Vegas.

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within the past week milos sarcev gave a real great interview, for those into training and into size listen to it thank me later, http://www.rxmuscle.com/off-topic.html

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you must not be from the USA....where anything can be had for the right amount of $, with the right doctor

i just started walking 3-5 miles a day.....i feel way better, no need for drugs

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Mr. Billy

Thank you for that link. I will bookmark that site. These guys are too much!

I'd love to get that big. I don't know if age plays a huge factor or not, but at least I can get fit.

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Sorry, I can just picture you shouting that at the screen.

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JenniDahling

Thanks for reminding me on the benefits of HGH! I had a natural supplement that was a hybrid synthetic HGH with colustrum (good stuff found in breast milk). I was dealing with a fairly serious medical condition that needed major surgery to help fix. I started the HGH about a month before the surgery and my Dr. couldn't believe how quickly I bounced back from such a major procedure about 2 weeks sooner than average.

Unfortunately they discontinued this particular brand of HGH and I've been looking for something similar since.

Glad it's working out for you! Keep it up!!!

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Educate me a little. Is 2 iu per day for rejuvenation purposes something that you continually take, for years. Are there repercussions from stopping etc? ... Thanks


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Major (Tom)

No none at all. I'd taper off for 3 weeks though so you don't leave your pituitary gland in a lurch.
Hgh is mainly a price issue. It's great though. If I was a little more vain I'd post pics. I went from a total fat peice of SH to being pretty solid. I started out bench pressing 225 now I can hit 315 for 6 reps. And, I no longer need to be on the paxil I was taking for anxiety. If you are in nj/ny, I have a great doc for you.
Cheers, and good health!
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F It---
here is a pic of me 3 weeks ago http://img269.yfrog.com/i/nhk.jpg/
and here is a pic of me a few days ago after seeing my doc and getting HGH. I had low test and low HGH and extremly low vitamin d. http://img33.yfrog.com/i/ngsu.jpg/
I don't know if you think I look good or not. I'm one of those guys who always thinks there is massive room for improvement. But I do see improvement between the two pics,
It works,
Duke

p.s. right now i'm a 36 inch waist. I want to hit a 32 by winter. I'm 5'5 and weight 230. I have plenty of fat to loose, but i put on a good deal of muscle too. I probally have 40 lbs to loose and i'd be quite ripped. 5'5 190 is a pretty solid weight. I hope i can hit it.

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Thank you very much. (big difference) I will email you later. Need some z's ... Lee



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Badmaash

Yeah you need to take T3, Horse hormones, Insulin, Clenbuterol, Proviron, Deca and Sustanon in conjunction with the HGH then tell me how you feel.

Throw in some Creatine aswell

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BVF

You can read about it all day....The only way to see if you like it is to go to a gym and start bench pressing.

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I can remember when I took Sustanon for the first time, wthin one week my bench press went up from 110Kg for 3 reps stright to 130kg for 3 reps.... HGH just kept me looking younger..... think I might need to take some agin sometime.

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Choopa Phil

thats some hardcore placebo man, you will not feel test in days...or even a week which is why people jumpstart their cycles with an oral for weeks 1-4 while running an injectable at the same time.

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