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Old 12-18-2009, 02:47 AM   #1
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Nice.. AFF just terminated my account...

Can someone read this and make some fucking sense out of it?

http://graphics.pop6.com/images/ftc_...gned_Order.pdf

Apparently we all have to comply with this shit and I haven't the slightest clue of what it is asking me to do. I am a little high right now...

Anyone got Cliff's Notes on this?
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Old 12-18-2009, 02:48 AM   #2
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Can someone read this and make some fucking sense out of it?

http://graphics.pop6.com/images/ftc_...gned_Order.pdf

Apparently we all have to comply with this shit and I haven't the slightest clue of what it is asking me to do. I am a little high right now...

Anyone got Cliff's Notes on this?
You probably promised them $150k in small unmarked bills like you did me.
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Old 12-18-2009, 02:51 AM   #3
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You probably promised them $150k in small unmarked bills like you did me.
oh snap you mean i'm not getting the $150k he promised me ?
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Old 12-18-2009, 02:53 AM   #4
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Id ask them for clarification tbh. Looks to me like someone is suing them cause they didn't like being seen on the site or something along those lines, and I'm guessing if they disabled your account you were promoting something involving that party and or their issue with AFF.
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aff was ordered by the ftc not to advertise or promote aff by means of a banner/frame/popup that contains sexually explicit material, they were ordered to also inform affiliates of this ?
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Old 12-18-2009, 03:23 AM   #6
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Can someone read this and make some fucking sense out of it?

http://graphics.pop6.com/images/ftc_...gned_Order.pdf

Apparently we all have to comply with this shit and I haven't the slightest clue of what it is asking me to do. I am a little high right now...

Anyone got Cliff's Notes on this?
Yes, Lars Mapstead and Andrew Conru, were/are, in my opinion, unscrupulous in some of their business practices. IMHO, they are both master manipulators, without any sense of conscience.

Basically bandits/PT Barnum's of the internet.

Their AFF business was a failure, losing big money at the end, so they climbed in bed and sold out to even shadier people than themselves (as hard as that is to imagine), out of utter selfishness/greed.

It's been over a year since the new ownes announced that they would issue an IPO in order to pay off something like a half-billion in debt, yet to date, no IPO has been issued, and the company has sunk even deeper into debt (all the while, helping to finance people that are undermining many content producers in the business).

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You probably promised them $150k in small unmarked bills like you did me.
Um...c'mon guys, you both know that's MY money...

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oh snap you mean i'm not getting the $150k he promised me ?
Take a fucking number, Masturbating Bear...



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Old 12-18-2009, 03:26 AM   #7
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Can someone read this and make some fucking sense out of it?

http://graphics.pop6.com/images/ftc_...gned_Order.pdf

Apparently we all have to comply with this shit and I haven't the slightest clue of what it is asking me to do. I am a little high right now...

Anyone got Cliff's Notes on this?
they look like serious guys

it worth to do business with them
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Old 12-18-2009, 03:26 AM   #8
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Old 12-18-2009, 03:42 AM   #9
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Got the same one, never was asked once to agree to shit, not going to kiss my traffic goodbye wankers.
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Old 12-18-2009, 03:43 AM   #10
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Id ask them for clarification tbh. Looks to me like someone is suing them cause they didn't like being seen on the site or something along those lines, and I'm guessing if they disabled your account you were promoting something involving that party and or their issue with AFF.
check page 4 from 5-25
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Old 12-18-2009, 03:47 AM   #11
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I think something is up as the date is 2007 in the emails they sent many and the pdf as well is dated back then
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:19 AM   #13
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You probably promised them $150k in small unmarked bills like you did me.
Just in a bit of a rut with the economy the way it is...

I will get you and Smokey that cash and everyone else who posts the 50th post numbered as 51, 101, 151 and so on. Just send me an email and I will epassporte that out to you when the economy improves...
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:22 AM   #14
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Hmm.... looking into this further... The message is sent to people and it doesn't have my ID with their company but it does show my name.

It has a link to login to some other domain...

So if you get this message, it appears to be a phishing scam and I guess the person doing the phishing is going to change your payment details or something...

The PDF is stamped with EFILE... Since when do court judgements get EFILED?
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:25 AM   #15
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I think this was my old ID I never got around to using and forgot the login to.

So it appears they got hacked and their DB is being used by someone trying to phish...
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Hmm.... looking into this further... The message is sent to people and it doesn't have my ID with their company but it does show my name.

It has a link to login to some other domain...

So if you get this message, it appears to be a phishing scam and I guess the person doing the phishing is going to change your payment details or something...

The PDF is stamped with EFILE... Since when do court judgements get EFILED?
This is why I asked if you could still login. A 2007 FTC judgement pdf no affiliate manager explanation. Makes no sense whatsoever. Stinks of ex-employee fishing scam.
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:27 AM   #17
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Hmm... no... they seem to own the domain...
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Hmm... no... they seem to own the domain...
Anyone can register a domain with fake info. Where are the nameservers pointing at?
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Hmm.. seems it could be real... But to do this without putting anything from a rep on GFY and other boards just seems stupid...
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Same as Getiton.com
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Got it too, that is beside the point.

Would be nice to know why they are terminating affiliate accounts. (If indeed they are doing so)
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I got one as well for an account I never used.
My normal account seems ok
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Maybe, um...GREED!

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lol yet you be in here sookn when your account is gone lmao....
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check page 4 from 5-25
That section seems to be saying that someone got a sexually explicit pop-up or some kind of ad from AFF which was unsolicited (SPAM).

I imagine it had your Affiliate ID in it.?

Just my guess.
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I got one as well for an account I never used.
My normal account seems ok
Me too and i emailed Sagi but it is early on the west coast. I am sure he will sort it.
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PDF CLIFF NOTES:

In a nutshell what I get from the PDF docs is that you can't serve a sexually explicit ad- be it a banner, pop under, etc- to a surfer unless the surfer is already on a sexually explicit site.

Essentially it's forcing the company and it's affiliates to serve content that matches the site it's going on. So if you've got a PG-13 feeder site you need to be serving PG-13 ads (no insertion / hardcore), but if you're an adult site thats already displaying adult content you can run whatever you want.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:33 AM   #32
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I was tempted to reply that I had terminated them years ago.
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Ccan someone tell me what the fuck is going on here?!
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I got the same email I haven't promoted them inyears though so I thought it was just me..lol
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they termed mine too


good riddance. I wouldnt send them 1 click anyway
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Old 12-18-2009, 12:25 PM   #41
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Yeah, mine, too. They suck big fucking time! I've took them out long time ago and I've never had the "opportunity" to boot them out first, which is kinda' twisted... with the credit card companies, once you give up to their services, their "fame" suffer in front of the head-offices and not only but if they give up on you, your credit history goes down the drain. No wonder I cannot terminate my own account so they can eat shit on the long run... blow us AFF.
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No Mail here..account seems to be fine..I guess Elli or Sagi will respond when they see the thread.
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How about the FTC filing suit against banks, other financial institutions, and the Federal Reserve for manipulative practices? When's that going to happen... oh never.
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I got one to with my affiliate number in it.

Our records indicate that you have never agreed to the terms and conditions
of any version of the Various' Affiliate Network Agreement that contains
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as to Defendant Various, Inc. (the "FTC Order") filed on December 12, 2007.


My account will be terminated Dec. 31 if I don't agree, but I could not find any place in the affiliate section to agree to anything. Tried contacting them but no answer yet. Sounds like a way to clean up on all those affiliate accounts that have minimum balances and traffic.

More sponsor hi-jinks.
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This is the agreement we had with the FTC 2 years ago. We cannot have promotions that are explicit and unsolicited. You can still promote us with explicit ads so long as it is NOT unsolicited. Unsolicited ads (such as an entry pop on your site) are also still okay so long as they are not explicit at the same time or came from the result of a click that was already in an explicit part of your site. This has always been our policy which is why we had no issues agreeing to this with the FTC. Part of the deal was to get all our affiliates to acknowledge the FTC agreement in our TOU. Affiliates who logged in within the past 2 years have probably already agreed. Most of these accounts have not been logged into in years or are second accounts that were forgotten about.

If you received the email reminder please be sure to login before the end of the year and review the TOU. You can contact me if you have trouble remembering your password.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:28 AM   #49
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AFF is by far the worst dating sponsor i've dealt with in my life... /opinion
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:43 AM   #50
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AFF is by far the worst dating sponsor i've dealt with in my life... /opinion
who do you prefer?
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