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DarkJedi · 05-03-2012, 10:50 AM

It should be higher than 17% if it's a table of nigs.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

she paid the bill when the officers arrived.

this country is a joke. push the wage off on the customer and let the owner get all the profit. scam 101

First she tried to steal but when police arrived she decided to pay for it. How typical.

RebelR · 05-03-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bigluv

Tipping should be eliminated completely.

The sub culture of wait staff thinking they are somehow special and not actually working a shit job is a farce and it should also be eliminated. Any profession where spitting in someones food is understandable has real problems.

Even in a nice restaurant the job is on the level of a car salesman, in my opinion. Not to be respected.

Most issues revolving around this start with wait staff thinking they are somehow better than they are.

EDIT: I guess I should say, I am fine with the majority of servers who perform their job adequately and whom I tip adequately. But the whole prima donna bullshit needs to change.

The only problem is that if you eliminate tipping, you remove the control of the restaurant patron. The restaurant pays the server more, which raises the price of the food you are paying for, and now an extra 17% is now on your bill, which you have no choice but to pay.

I think the system works fine, and I've never had any issue paying a tip. Even when service is slow, having come from restaurant background, I realize that there are circumstances beyond the server's control, and am more forgiving for certain things, while harsher on others. As long as the server is doing their best to rectify the situation, I can wait. But if the server is apathetic, or generally disinterested in performing their job, I lower the tip to around 10%. Quite often those servers are paying out door staff, kitchen, bus boys etc a specific portion of their sales, so stiffing them actually costs them money to serve you.

As for the Prima Donna issue, there's nothing wrong with pride in your job. If you are good at what you do, and can back it up. That's something that I think the Euro Waiters have over the ones in North America, over there it's a profession. Over here, its something to do while waiting for your other career to take off, or while you are in school.

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

weird tipping culture you guys have. Putting a tip on the bill completely misses the point of a tip. Tips are not mandatory. I give 2 euros tip tops at a restaurant to round off, when anything sucks i give nothing.

The whole tipping thing in the US keeps amazing me when i'm there. It's ridiculous. The money you *have* to spend on tips is insane!

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CamTraffic

Lot of people don't realize that Tips is the only source of revenues for the wait Staff.

Wtf has the customer to do with that?
And i hear that excuse a lot btw. Waiters crying about it. Well then find another job where you do get paid. Also most places i've been to in the US the peopld working there must be making 5 times what they do here getting paid per hour. Because of the huge amounts of tips they are getting.

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10

Clearly no one here has worked in the restaurant biz which is surprising. Federal min wage for wait staff is $2.13 an hour. Tipping is not optional, if you think that you are a douchebag asshole. I tip 20% for service and maybe 15% for lousy service, which is rare. And for the Europeans, your service sucks, tip more

Not my fucking problem that you took a job where you get 2 fucking dollars a hour.

IdealImageMgmt · 05-03-2012, 11:14 AM

Wow that really sucks! You should know how much you have before you spend it

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Nembrionic

Right, so..bringing them extra business is considered an inconvenience to them?

Yes. The most dumb thing i read this week.

Tiffanypreston · 05-03-2012, 11:17 AM

thats a funny one

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Not my fucking problem that you took a job where you get 2 fucking dollars a hour.

The reason its 2 dollars is because tipping is the main source of income. Its customary in the US, so if you don't like, don't come over here.

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

If it wasn't for mandatory gratuities, waiters would refuse to serve large parties.

What the hell!! It's your fucking job! Goddamn idiot country.

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

If you think its easy try it. I would certainly have quit if I was forced to wait on large tables for free. When you go to a restaurant you are not buying food, but an experience. If you don't want to pay for it, you should go to a grocery store or a McDonalds or some shit.

I really hope people will refuse to help you with whatever. Just because they feel like it. You deserve it.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

What the hell!! It's your fucking job! Goddamn idiot country.

Well fuck, tell that to fucking lazy ass Euros who give you dirty looks if you ask for coke refill or to bring some sugar for your coffee. Now thats some fucking service there, and its included in the bill no matter how much you spend or how many people in your party.

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RebelR

Ate at the Pub, The Hard Rock, and a steak place a bit further away. The Hard Rock shut the kitchen down 10 mins early and served Beer that was half full. One of the guys at the table commented that if you did that in Scotland they would smack you over the head with it. The waitress just shrugged it off. Its not like she gets paid any differently. The pub, we waited 15 mins just for a menu and someone to take a drink order.

That's why you avoid the tourist places.

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

If you are as big an asshole IRL as you are on the board you have probably ingested a lot of bodily fluids that has no doubt been liberally sprinkled on your food in restaurants.

Wait, coming from someone who would refuse to help big groups. Eventhough you signed up for that job. You fucking imbecile.

Sly · 05-03-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

I really hope people will refuse to help you with whatever. Just because they feel like it. You deserve it.

I get bad service more than I get good service. Very rarely do I get great service.

Waiters are usually kids that don't care or middle-aged sort of people that are bitter. That is not a service I'm paying a premium for. Be a good waiter and take care of your tables and I'm sure you can make decent money. I know plenty of good waiters that do it

A tip is not entitled. I don't care what your base wage is. Waiting is essentially a commission job. Do good at your job, get paid more money.

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

Most mid-range restaurants will only alot a server 4 or 5 tables per shift, maybe 6-8 for an experienced one, or an average of 12-16 simultaneous customers max.

If a table of 12 people comes in, he has to handle them exclusively and cant take any other tables in order to give them the attention they need. Usually a group that size will not be in any hurry to leave and camp out awhile, effectively making that waiter's entire shift or a good portion of it a one-party affair.

If a waiter could normally make 100-200 a night hustling a larger group of higher turnover tables, and has to spend all day with one big table who then decides to leave a couple bucks or nothing, they are gonna be pissed. They are going to be one of the restaurants stronger servers or they wouldn't be trusted with a "bigtop" and they are going to have some pull with the manager because they are one of front of the house team's stronger players that likely picks up a lot of slack for noobs and trainees.

So that's why you get "gratted" in large groups.

As to whether it's difficult or not, note that most people that are past highschool and college age are also done waiting tables, the physical and mental demands are pretty high and are not inline with the minimal rewards. It's not a job for lazy people, at least not in decent restaurants, its more a job for people with a lot of energy who haven't figure out how to better capitalize on that energy yet.

Aaaaw you pwoor you. Need a tissue? Crying because you took a 2 dollar per hour job. How fucking dumb can you get.

CamTraffic · 05-03-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Wtf has the customer to do with that?
And i hear that excuse a lot btw. Waiters crying about it. Well then find another job where you do get paid. Also most places i've been to in the US the peopld working there must be making 5 times what they do here getting paid per hour. Because of the huge amounts of tips they are getting.

Customers should leave at least 15% tip on their total tab. ( in the Us)Dont wanna pay it? Then eat at HOME or get a take out! That s how the wait staff generate revenues. It's not hard to understand unless you live on Europe and are clueless about how this works in the US.

Here, educate yourself: http://www.itipping.com/tip-guide-restaurant.htm

Sly · 05-03-2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CamTraffic

Customers should be at least 15% tip on their total tab. ( in the Us)Dont wanna pay it? Then eat at HOME or get a take out! That s how the wait staff generate revenues. It's not hard to understand unless you live on Europe and are clueless about how this works in the US.

Here, educate yourself: http://www.itipping.com/tip-guide-restaurant.htm

Are you really suggesting that if people don't want to pay 15%, due to poor service, they should stay home and not use restaurants at all? I personally have no problem with that, I don't really care for restaurants because of the poor service most of them have.

However, 15% of nothing (because no customers are coming in) is not very much money.

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Because you take entire section of one particular waiter. You take his time, efforts and money. He needs to pay his bills too, you know.

Not my fucking problem he took a shit job. Why don't you people inderstand that?

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 11:38 AM

I'm there to eat and not to feel sorry for you and pay your bills.

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CamTraffic

Customers should leave at least 15% tip on their total tab. ( in the Us)Dont wanna pay it? Then eat at HOME or get a take out! That s how the wait staff generate revenues. It's not hard to understand unless you live on Europe and are clueless about how this works in the US.

Here, educate yourself: http://www.itipping.com/tip-guide-restaurant.htm

Wtf are you crying about you homo. I do tip plenty there there. Where did you read that i didn't? Fucking redneck.

Tom_PM · 05-03-2012, 11:45 AM

This discussion has been had many times on here before. It really needs to change from the top down, or it wont change at all. You try to say no mandatory tipping in 2012 and you get the argument that it's their income, they pay taxes on it, and good waiters make more money on tips than they would if you paid them normally at $10 an hour. All true enough.

So you change it from the top. Pass laws, reform the industry, take the risks that you can get by like other countries where there is no tipping and actually fast service. Heck, just pay minimum wage PLUS tips but knock off the "entitled to a tip" attitude and thats cool with me.

If it's a big table, good! You got more business! Call in a extra waiter to work. But if my steak is +17% mandatory and the guy eating alone can leave $1 in tips should not be legal.

And btw, if a waiter WANTS to choose a $2 base plus tips then let them, but dont force the tip to be mandatory for petes sake. WORK harder and EARN that big payroll you gave up the minimum wage for. Dont be a potato and complain that you deserve it because there was a big table compared to normal. EARN it.

CamTraffic · 05-03-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Are you really suggesting that if people don't want to pay 15%, due to poor service, they should stay home and not use restaurants at all? I personally have no problem with that, I don't really care for restaurants because of the poor service most of them have.

However, 15% of nothing (because no customers are coming in) is not very much money.

Wow you get bad service everytime you go to a restaurant?
What pisses me off is the cheap bastards that don't tip the right way when they get good service. If you get bad service; then call a manager and get a different waiter.

CamTraffic · 05-03-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Wtf are you crying about you homo. I do tip plenty there there. Where did you read that i didn't? Fucking redneck.

Me redneck??? Lmao!! Ok fat ass...

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Not my fucking problem he took a shit job. Why don't you people inderstand that?

No, he took a job that was available for him where 90% of people tip as expected (read customary), the other 10% consisted of blacks, prom kids, fucking cheap ass euros and old farts will stiff them with shitty tip. The reason owners can pay waiters below minimum wage is because its CUSTOMARY in the US to tip 15%. Whats so difficult to understand? You probably have some weird shit too that I might not like, but you dont see me telling you that.

CamTraffic · 05-03-2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

No, he took a job that was available for him where 90% of people tip as expected (read customary), the other 10% consisted of blacks, prom kids, fucking cheap ass euros and old farts will stiff them with shitty tip. The reason owners can pay waiters below minimum wage is because its CUSTOMARY in the US to tip 15%. Whats so difficult to understand? You probably have some weird shit too that I might not like, but you dont see me telling you that.

Amen to that. Good luck educating the tards that never eat out

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

And btw, if a waiter WANTS to choose a $2 base plus tips then let them, but dont force the tip to be mandatory for petes sake. WORK harder and EARN that big payroll you gave up the minimum wage for. Dont be a potato and complain that you deserve it because there was a big table compared to normal. EARN it.

It doesn't fucking matter how hard you work when you know you're going to get $2 tip on $200 check. I waited tables thru college and I can tell you that - nobody want to take large black party or some fucks with heavy european accent and smell of human sweat. Smart waiters will pay hostess to take that shit to someone else section because you know that if these schmucks take over yours you aren't going to get paid no matter what. They just don't tip. Did you see the bitch in the video? You really think she ever tiped anyone more than usual 5%? Ask any waiter about blacks and euros and their tipping etiquette.

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Guess the race.

She wanted to give her "own" tip. I would guess a dollar.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/oddnews-...-29164460.html

Only in America

Tom_PM · 05-03-2012, 12:00 PM

Well, that's why the entire system should be overhauled, haha. Instead of forcing waiters to disciminate about who is tonights paycheck coming from, they should be PAID a fair wage to begin with. Then they wont give a shit what table calls them over.

It's just tough shit if you are assigned a table that has 12 people sitting around it. Totally tough crap. If you want to get 15%, then just do the job, lol. If you can put 17% mandatory, then do it for ALL tables. And dont call it a tip because it's not a tip. I'm super simple to please on this shit. It's not a tip if you're forcing me to pay it. If I'm giving it to you when I do NOT have to, tada! It's a tip.

2012 · 05-03-2012, 12:03 PM

i got a tip for ya. go fuckyourself

Seth Manson · 05-03-2012, 12:26 PM

I normally tip 16.2%

How did I come up with that number? Simple. Sales tax here is 8.1% so I just double that to figure the tip to keep things simple. Most of the restaurants I go to are my favorites, and they got to be my favorites because of good food and service so I don't mind tipping them a little over the standard 15%

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Well, that's why the entire system should be overhauled, haha. Instead of forcing waiters to disciminate about who is tonights paycheck coming from, they should be PAID a fair wage to begin with. Then they wont give a shit what table calls them over.

It's just tough shit if you are assigned a table that has 12 people sitting around it. Totally tough crap. If you want to get 15%, then just do the job, lol. If you can put 17% mandatory, then do it for ALL tables. And dont call it a tip because it's not a tip. I'm super simple to please on this shit. It's not a tip if you're forcing me to pay it. If I'm giving it to you when I do NOT have to, tada! It's a tip.

There's nothing to change. Waiters can tell off the bet who's going to tip what. Its called experience. Nothing has to with race or gender. Their fair wage is 15% on top of the bill, but there are those who think its way too much no matter how hard they work and what they do. You get 12 blacks on you side who ask for refills on their shirley temples all day long one after another, why the chicken fried steak doesn't have enough crisp, split a salad, some more bread, and fucking talk as if they are on runway of the airport. And at the end they ask for split checks and give you 11 dollar tip (one person will "forget" to leave their dollar thinking everyone else is going to cover that).
Now you see if this was typical diner, just that would constitute good service and automatic 15%. Its just custom! American custom. What you canadians or euros or ghetto citizens do is your own biz. But if you come here to the US, please observe our customs. Go fuck around with hookers in your red light district of Amsterdam and tell them you didn't like service and you're not going to tip.

Nembrionic · 05-03-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

First she tried to steal but when police arrived she decided to pay for it. How typical.

How is not tipping stealing?

Tom_PM · 05-03-2012, 12:58 PM

"custom" can kiss my ass

If someone has a shit poor attitude then I'll pay the price for the food and make them dance to earn 5% or they can eat cat food.

Again, call it a surcharge, call it a mandatory wait staff customer payout, but it's NOT a "tip" and it's NOT a "gratuity". Simple. Change the damn name of it and stop pretending it's correct to have a thing called a "mandatory tip", because it isn't.

Nembrionic · 05-03-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Well fuck, tell that to fucking lazy ass Euros who give you dirty looks if you ask for coke refill or to bring some sugar for your coffee. Now thats some fucking service there, and its included in the bill no matter how much you spend or how many people in your party.

Which countries are you talking about? Or is it just Amsterdam?

Regarding refills: here in the Netherlands we don't do refills. It sucks if you're not used to it and you expect one. But, to use your own argument: if you don't like it, don't come over

klinton · 05-03-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i usually give 10% which makes me here in CZ look like a crazy rich person

when a Czech person gets a restaurant bill of 743 czech crowns, he MAYBE gives 750 - and 7 crowns are 28 euro cents

1 usd of tip ? crazy, rich guy.......

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 01:09 PM

Here in Russia I pay about 20% tips if I like the service very much - the waiter girls looked cool and they were very kind, quick and obliging. Otherwise I can give them nothing or even get their manager to bring me some extra food/drinks because there was something I didn't like.

Major (Tom) · 05-03-2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RebelR

The only problem is that if you eliminate tipping, you remove the control of the restaurant patron. The restaurant pays the server more, which raises the price of the food you are paying for, and now an extra 17% is now on your bill, which you have no choice but to pay.

I think the system works fine, and I've never had any issue paying a tip. Even when service is slow, having come from restaurant background, I realize that there are circumstances beyond the server's control, and am more forgiving for certain things, while harsher on others. As long as the server is doing their best to rectify the situation, I can wait. But if the server is apathetic, or generally disinterested in performing their job, I lower the tip to around 10%. Quite often those servers are paying out door staff, kitchen, bus boys etc a specific portion of their sales, so stiffing them actually costs them money to serve you.

As for the Prima Donna issue, there's nothing wrong with pride in your job. If you are good at what you do, and can back it up. That's something that I think the Euro Waiters have over the ones in North America, over there it's a profession. Over here, its something to do while waiting for your other career to take off, or while you are in school.

very well said
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MaDalton · 05-03-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CamTraffic

It's not hard to understand unless you live on Europe and are clueless about how this works in the US.

actually we people who live On Europe and travel a lot educate ourselves before we leave. but almost each european country has also different tipping habits but that seems to be very difficult to understand for non-europeans

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Originally Posted by klinton

1 usd of tip ? crazy, rich guy.......

you gotta brush up your reading skills

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nembrionic

How is not tipping stealing?

Why dont you watch video first?

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

"custom" can kiss my ass

If someone has a shit poor attitude then I'll pay the price for the food and make them dance to earn 5% or they can eat cat food.

Again, call it a surcharge, call it a mandatory wait staff customer payout, but it's NOT a "tip" and it's NOT a "gratuity". Simple. Change the damn name of it and stop pretending it's correct to have a thing called a "mandatory tip", because it isn't.

In this case it was mandatory as stated ON THE FUCKING MENU !!! Just like "no shoes no shirt, no service". Don't like it, go eat you fucking cat food.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nembrionic

Which countries are you talking about? Or is it just Amsterdam?

Regarding refills: here in the Netherlands we don't do refills. It sucks if you're not used to it and you expect one. But, to use your own argument: if you don't like it, don't come over

Thats the point. When I traveled around europe I didn't insist on free re-fills just because here in states its free. I didn't insist on extra ice either. So what so fucking hard to understand that its 15% here? not 5%, not 3%.. FffffuCKING FIFTEEN !!!!

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Here in Russia I pay about 20% tips if I like the service very much - the waiter girls looked cool and they were very kind, quick and obliging. Otherwise I can give them nothing or even get their manager to bring me some extra food/drinks because there was something I didn't like.

And what if its a guy? You dont give him shit?

klinton · 05-03-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nembrionic

This I totally agree on. Cultural. Not racial either...cultural.

See above. That shit doesn't fly over here. Over here large parties get discount because they bring in a shitload of money and aren't considered a pest and a nuisance because they're not eating with <4 people.

It really amazes me how fucked up some places are.

exactly.....

qwe · 05-03-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RebelR

The only problem is that if you eliminate tipping, you remove the control of the restaurant patron. The restaurant pays the server more, which raises the price of the food you are paying for, and now an extra 17% is now on your bill, which you have no choice but to pay.

I think the system works fine, and I've never had any issue paying a tip. Even when service is slow, having come from restaurant background, I realize that there are circumstances beyond the server's control, and am more forgiving for certain things, while harsher on others. As long as the server is doing their best to rectify the situation, I can wait. But if the server is apathetic, or generally disinterested in performing their job, I lower the tip to around 10%. Quite often those servers are paying out door staff, kitchen, bus boys etc a specific portion of their sales, so stiffing them actually costs them money to serve you.

As for the Prima Donna issue, there's nothing wrong with pride in your job. If you are good at what you do, and can back it up. That's something that I think the Euro Waiters have over the ones in North America, over there it's a profession. Over here, its something to do while waiting for your other career to take off, or while you are in school.

I rather have them raise prices on everything and everyone pays exactly the same vs always trying to figure out what to tip... waiters should get paid hourly rate by the company and not rely on people to foot their bill... reminds me of atlantis in bahamas recently, they automatically add something like %13-17 tip to the bill to already super over priced food and then expect you to give them another tip on top, what a rip off that place was

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

And what if its a guy? You dont give him shit?

Yep. I don't like male-waters

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Why dont you watch video first?

Where exactly are you from? Are you in the US? You talk like a Russian.

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Where exactly are you from? Are you in the US? You talk like a Russian.

Because he is a Russian refugee who's looking for a better life in the USA

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Where exactly are you from? Are you in the US? You talk like a Russian.

How was that Russian?

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	This discussion has been had many times on here before. It really needs to change from the top down, or it wont change at all. You try to say no mandatory tipping in 2012 and you get the argument that it's their income, they pay taxes on it, and good waiters make more money on tips than they would if you paid them normally at $10 an hour. All true enough. So you change it from the top. Pass laws, reform the industry, take the risks that you can get by like other countries where there is no tipping and actually fast service. Heck, just pay minimum wage PLUS tips but knock off the "entitled to a tip" attitude and thats cool with me. If it's a big table, good! You got more business! Call in a extra waiter to work. But if my steak is +17% mandatory and the guy eating alone can leave $1 in tips should not be legal. And btw, if a waiter WANTS to choose a $2 base plus tips then let them, but dont force the tip to be mandatory for petes sake. WORK harder and EARN that big payroll you gave up the minimum wage for. Dont be a potato and complain that you deserve it because there was a big table compared to normal. EARN it. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar. Last edited by Tom_PM; 05-03-2012 at 11:47 AM..

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Well, that's why the entire system should be overhauled, haha. Instead of forcing waiters to disciminate about who is tonights paycheck coming from, they should be PAID a fair wage to begin with. Then they wont give a shit what table calls them over. It's just tough shit if you are assigned a table that has 12 people sitting around it. Totally tough crap. If you want to get 15%, then just do the job, lol. If you can put 17% mandatory, then do it for ALL tables. And dont call it a tip because it's not a tip. I'm super simple to please on this shit. It's not a tip if you're forcing me to pay it. If I'm giving it to you when I do NOT have to, tada! It's a tip. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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05-03-2012, 12:26 PM	#132
Seth Manson Please dont fuck animals Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 3,988	I normally tip 16.2% How did I come up with that number? Simple. Sales tax here is 8.1% so I just double that to figure the tip to keep things simple. Most of the restaurants I go to are my favorites, and they got to be my favorites because of good food and service so I don't mind tipping them a little over the standard 15% __________________

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DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	It should be higher than 17% if it's a table of nigs.

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	I'm there to eat and not to feel sorry for you and pay your bills.

05-03-2012, 12:58 PM	#135
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	"custom" can kiss my ass If someone has a shit poor attitude then I'll pay the price for the food and make them dance to earn 5% or they can eat cat food. Again, call it a surcharge, call it a mandatory wait staff customer payout, but it's NOT a "tip" and it's NOT a "gratuity". Simple. Change the damn name of it and stop pretending it's correct to have a thing called a "mandatory tip", because it isn't. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

05-03-2012, 01:09 PM	#138
just a punk So fuckin' bored Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,383	Here in Russia I pay about 20% tips if I like the service very much - the waiter girls looked cool and they were very kind, quick and obliging. Otherwise I can give them nothing or even get their manager to bring me some extra food/drinks because there was something I didn't like. __________________ Obey the Cowgod Last edited by just a punk; 05-03-2012 at 01:10 PM..