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bigluv · 05-03-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RebelR

The only problem is that if you eliminate tipping, you remove the control of the restaurant patron. The restaurant pays the server more, which raises the price of the food you are paying for, and now an extra 17% is now on your bill, which you have no choice but to pay.

I think the system works fine, and I've never had any issue paying a tip. Even when service is slow, having come from restaurant background, I realize that there are circumstances beyond the server's control, and am more forgiving for certain things, while harsher on others. As long as the server is doing their best to rectify the situation, I can wait. But if the server is apathetic, or generally disinterested in performing their job, I lower the tip to around 10%. Quite often those servers are paying out door staff, kitchen, bus boys etc a specific portion of their sales, so stiffing them actually costs them money to serve you.

As for the Prima Donna issue, there's nothing wrong with pride in your job. If you are good at what you do, and can back it up. That's something that I think the Euro Waiters have over the ones in North America, over there it's a profession. Over here, its something to do while waiting for your other career to take off, or while you are in school.

On 'removing the control of the patron' - Really? You mean like every other industry where the feedback loop is - customer votes with their wallet - ownership either reacts to produce better product or doesn't and eventually goes out of business/languishes.

+17% =/= an increase to a reasonable minimum wage, or whatever the market would require for people to do the job without tips.

Bullshit about "outside of the servers control" kind of invalidates anything else you said as you obviously have a point of view that's closed. Why the fuck should I care about figuring out if something is outside of the servers control or not? I'm paying the fucking restaurant and the server and trying to figure out if something is the busboys fault or the chef's fault or the managers fault or the servers fault is just bullshit predicated upon justifications based on servers wanting to be tipped.

If I go to best buy and buy a TV , but its actually not a very good TV it turns out, should I return the TV but still take a portion of that return money and give it directly to the salesman? I mean, he didn't make the TV right?

I had lots of shit jobs over my life, and some of them were enjoyable even, but lets face it - shit jobs should pay shit. Waiting and tips doesn't make any sense and the sooner everyone figures that out the better.

Nembrionic · 05-03-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Thats the point. When I traveled around europe I didn't insist on free re-fills just because here in states its free. I didn't insist on extra ice either. So what so fucking hard to understand that its 15% here? not 5%, not 3%.. FffffuCKING FIFTEEN !!!!

If you didn't insist on any of those...

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Well fuck, tell that to fucking lazy ass Euros who give you dirty looks if you ask for coke refill or to bring some sugar for your coffee. Now thats some fucking service there, and its included in the bill no matter how much you spend or how many people in your party.

...how could you know they give you dirty looks if you ask for refills

It's not difficult to understand at all. The fact that we think it's retarted doesn't mean we don't understand.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Because he is a Russian refugee who's looking for a better life in the USA

STFU, I was 6 when we moved. Not that I ever regret it.

klinton · 05-03-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

you gotta brush up your reading skills

or, you - your sense of irony ;]

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

How was that Russian?

Well the fact that you don't see it is exactly why you make certain language mistakes. Don't mean it in a bad way btw.

iSpyCams · 05-03-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

I'm there to eat and not to feel sorry for you and pay your bills.

Regardless of your intentions, there is a social contract observed by those who understand the correct way to behave in public and ignored by those who don't.

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

STFU, I was 6 when we moved. Not that I ever regret it.

Who cares how old you was? You are still just a refugee but nothing else. I believe your parents are poor people. If you can't make good money on your own Motherland, you won't make them anywhere else. Losers stay losers everywhere.

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 01:48 PM

It's weird because your English is very good but still you have that typical Russian language thing.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nembrionic

If you didn't insist on any of those...

...how could you know they give you dirty looks if you ask for refills

It's not difficult to understand at all. The fact that we think it's retarted doesn't mean we don't understand.

They knew I was from the US. I can't remember where it was but i remember walking all day and stopping at burger king. So I order snack and drink and they give me this child meal cup with 3 sips in it. I downed that in 1 second and asked for some more. Kid gave me this look as if I was asking for his wallet.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

It's weird because your English is very good but still you have that typical Russian language thing.

Not sure what you mean but maybe its like ghetto thing and ebonics.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Who cares how old you was? You are still just a refugee but nothing else. I believe your parents are poor people. If you can't make good money on your Motherland, you won't make them anywhere else.

Piss off. I can bet my parent are much better off here than all of your relatives combined.

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Piss off. I can bet my parent are much better off here than all of your relatives combined.

Of course, of course, boy

Dirty F · 05-03-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Not sure what you mean but maybe its like ghetto thing and ebonics.

No, it's a Russian thing. Or do you think i randomly guessed you were Russian.

EddyTheDog · 05-03-2012, 01:53 PM

So you walk into a store and ask for 5 top of the range computers.

Should they ask for an extra 17% because of all that extra work they have to do? - They have to pack them and the paper work is a pain in the ass.

It doesn't make sense!

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

No, it's a Russian thing. Or do you think i randomly guessed you were Russian.

Believe me, Russian immigrants are much more "Russian" (Soviet) than modern Russian generation is. Those are still thinking the commie way.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Of course, of course, boy

No, no. To make you feel better Im going to tell you they are stuck in one bedroom apartment, drive bus to buy some bread and live off $200 pension generously handed to them by Obama administration.

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

No, no. To make you feel better Im going to tell you they are stuck in one bedroom apartment, drive bus to buy some bread and live off $200 pension generously handed to them by Obama administration.

Too bad for them. Poor old people. Don't see any reason for any jokes.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

So you walk into a store and ask for 5 top of the range computers.

Should they ask for an extra 17% because of all that extra work they have to do? - They have to pack them and the paper work is a pain in the ass.

It doesn't make sense!

People selling computers work in retail, not service industry. Its common to tip waiters, hairdressers, car wash and delivery guys. Whats so difficult to comprehend?

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Too bad for them. Poor old people. Don't see any reason for any jokes.

Yep, I described 90% of your elderly. No need to worry about ours. My folks retired to a nice house in Florida and get to enjoy their retirement playing golf and riding their boat. Can't say that about Russian people.

Now lets get back to tipping.

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Yep, I described 90% of your elderly.

Stop reading the fantasy books. It's not a joke.

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

No need to worry about ours.

I don't. Those are your parents and you are the only person to care about them. Don't bring it to this board please.

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

My folks retired to a nice house in Florida and get to enjoy their retirement playing gold and riding their boat. Can't say that about Russian people.

This is a standard story for every Russian immigrant. Congrats on that

P.S. Why they were unable to give you good education at least? Who are you now? Nothing? I "believe" your parents are proud of you

EddyTheDog · 05-03-2012, 02:10 PM

I wonder what would happen if a restaurant chain in the US said - We do not welcome tips, we pay our staff a good wage?

baddog · 05-03-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

this country is a joke. push the wage off on the customer and let the owner get all the profit. scam 101

Is that a racial thing?

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Stop reading the fantasy books. It's not a joke.
I don't. Those are your parents and you are the only person to care about them. Don't bring it to this board please.
This is a standard story for every Russian immigrant. Congrats on that

P.S. Why they were unable to give you good education at least? Who are you now? Nothing? I "believe" your parents are proud of you

Thats right, Its all peachy in Russia. The $200 monthly hand out from government which barely covers their food and living expenses. Alcoholism left and right. It's all deception, all lies. Who are you fucking kidding?

And see, here we get our own education. We don't have to rely on our parents to pay our bills or provide us with shelter. We actually work thru college and get our own place. How old were you before you moved out from your moms two bedroom apartment? 35?
We dont wait for gift, we go and GET it!

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I wonder what would happen if a restaurant chain in the US said - We do not welcome tips, we pay our staff a good wage?

Sonic drive thru.

Bladewire · 05-03-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Sonic drive thru.

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Thats right, Its all peachy in Russia. The $200 monthly hand out from government which barely covers their food and living expenses. Alcoholism left and right.

I feel for you? idiot. Really.

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

And see, here we get our own education. We don't have to rely on our parents to pay our bills or provide us with shelter. We actually work thru college and get our own place. How old were you before you moved out from your moms two bedroom apartment? 35?

I'm just a year older right now. Bought my first personal apartments in Moscow ($250.000 USD - if you can find it cheaper here - just let me know

)) w/o any credits. I bought it for my own money when I was "a bit" younger

It was the first apartment personal I was living in.

Now, what's about you? No education, no money, live for a loan? I feel for you then

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

We dont wait for gift

Who are "We"? Poor Russian immigrants? Don't make me laugh, kid

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit

For real. I tried tipping them and kid told me its against their policy and showed me the sign.

O MARINA · 05-03-2012, 02:31 PM

Tipping debate threads are all 5+ pages every few months. Please get back to work so ya'll can afford to tip 20%.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I feel for you? idiot. Really.

I'm just a year older right now. Bought my first personal apartments in Moscow ($250.000 USD) w/o any credits for the money I earned when I was "a bit" younger

So, what's about you? No education, no money, live for a loan? I feel for you then

Who are "We"? Poor Russian immigrants? Don't make me laugh, kid

Sure, sure, sure. Typical Russian bragging how he's got downtown apartment, bmw and a driver that came with it. Fucking assclown. Big bucks in WP plugins biz.

I have more education than you ever will, punk. And I guarantee you my cars worth more than 10 yellow buses you ride daily.

"We are" as in we are Americans dumb fuck.

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by O MARINA

Tipping debate threads are all 5+ pages every few months. Please get back to work so ya'll can afford to tip 20%.

See my sig. I pay you 40% for every sale for my script. Stop posting to this thread and start making money already )

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by O MARINA

Tipping debate threads are all 5+ pages every few months. Please get back to work so ya'll can afford to tip 20%.

Shhhhh, its night time in mother Russia and we don't want to wake his mommy up. She's sleeping on the couch today.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

See my sig. I pay you 40% for every sale for my script. Stop posting to this thread and start making money already )

Hey look everybody, we have new clown in town.

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Sure, sure, sure. Typical Russian bragging how he's got downtown apartment, bmw and a driver that came with it. Fucking assclown. Big bucks in WP plugins biz

Is that everything you can say, a poor Russian immigrant? Congrats on that

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

I have more education than you ever will,

Wow, you know such a word as "education"? I'm really surprised with that! Can you please tell me the name of university (college) you did accomplish?

What a poor little idiot...

Nembrionic · 05-03-2012, 02:42 PM

I love how a thread aimed at bashing on black people not paying tips turned into a fuckfest between a clown and a Russian.

Oleg Popov is dying inside.

Dating Port · 05-03-2012, 02:43 PM

I took two friends out to lunch. While there we ran out of beverages and the waiter promptly came and refilled both their glasses, looked straight at me and walked away without refilling mine. I'm black and both of them were white. Well when we left, I paid the whole bill (I took THEM out to lunch) and left no tip. The waiter chased us out to the car demanding his tip. I told him he should take better care on whose paying the bill and not to assume I'm just tagging along on my white friends. I just closed the door in his face and we all had a good laugh on the way back to work.

I normally tip very well according to the service and the custom. It s expected here in the US.

mineistaken · 05-03-2012, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I'm with the customer.

Crap service means no tip, why the fuck should you?!!

I cant believe that the restaurant thinks that charging an extra 17% for parties of 5 or more makes sense.

A 17% discount I could understand.

Yep, usually restaurants want to encourage more customers=more business=more money inside, but this one is discouraging it by overcharging if you bring 4+ friends

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nembrionic

Oleg Popov is dying inside.

FYI: he's died already.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

name of university you did accomplish?

University you did accomplish? WTF?
You mean graduated?

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Yep, usually restaurants want to encourage more customers=more business=more money inside, but this one is discouraging it by overcharging if you bring 4+ friends

Most restaurants have "large party" fee on their menus. Its not to discourage but reward server for inconvenience of running multiple checks, endless refills and so on. You have no idea how difficult it is to make endless runs for refills, taking orders and answering questions all at the same time.

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

University you did accomplish? WTF?
You mean graduated?

I meant "accomplished". If you have graduated anything - please share, you trailer park kid. ))))

lucas131 · 05-03-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

but you agree that the common czech person is not really good at tipping?

yes that is true. people have to pay 195czk and they say 200 and some still thinks they are the kings. but, we need to learn, still many people lived in communism so nobody teached them how to be nice and reward when you got a good service, they have learned how to save and think only about themself

but we are learning i hope

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dating Port

I normally tip very well according to the service and the custom. It s expected here in the US.

exactly. Who gives a fuck what russian clowns do in russia.

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I meant "accomplished". If you have graduated anything - please share, you trailer park kid. ))))

virginia tech.
And you punk?

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

exactly. Who gives a fuck what russian clowns do in russia.

What's about russian clowns in the USA then? Are you a special one?

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

What's about russian clowns in the USA then? Are you a special one?

I don't know. Make it over here and we'll see.

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

virginia tech.

And you still sell porn? Wow, and have no job yet? You must be one of the kind

mineistaken · 05-03-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Oh, Amsterdam and the 'Half Full Pint'.

Us Brits will just never accept that a Dutch Pint is a Pint.

Wars have been fought for less.

I am pretty sure they use half a liter mugs and not pint size mugs. Plus there is always a 500ml mark on it and its not on the very top. I am pretty sure you got what you paid for

Just Alex · 05-03-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

And you still sell porn? Wow, and have no job yet? You must be one of the kind

No, I sale ICQ numbers and WP plugins.

Thats how I accomplish 250K apartment in downtown DC and drive 2014 Lamborghini to my local Deli.

So which university you "accomplished" in mother Russia. I missed it somehow.

just a punk · 05-03-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

I don't know. Make it over here and we'll see.

If you are so clever, show your money. For some reason I believe you are just a poor motherfucker who lives on welfare. Poor immigrant asshat clown.

BTW, I'm gonna sleep now (1:57am here). Good night!

CurrentlySober · 05-03-2012, 02:58 PM

I'm gonna share my lil tip story with you all, if you wanna read it... Sorry if it gets a little long, (AKA A "Markhamesque" wall of text...) but I promise not to mention 'poo' - Whoops - Just did !

Being from the UK, and only really used to tipping in fancy restaurants, I made my first trip to the USA in 1999

It was a biz thing. I was there with my wife, who was appearing at different locations as part of a 'Caravan of Stars' at 'The Tampa Show'

I ended up with her, and about 30 other pornstars and 20 or husbands and BFs in the VIP are of a 'strip club'...

Believe it or not, I didn't really want to be at the strip club at all, as I was Jet-lagged from my flight etc, and not really interested in seeing (more) naked girls etc... But I kinda went along with the crowd, if only to 'Support' my wife...

Pretty girl (Who worked there) approaches and say - Would you like a drink sir? I asked her how much for what I wanted, she said $10 (For a beer) and I thought, well, thats steep, for a beer, but well, I can afford it, so yeah, ok go ahead... She says she'll be back with it...

I find a ten dollar bill (Still not used to the money, as to me, it all looked the same) and have it ready, for when she returned. She handed me my drink, I said thanks and handed her the $10 and it was dark, and kinda noisy, but as she walked away, she looked at the bill, gave me a filthy look, and said something that sounded like an insult (but I couldn't hear it over noise) and walked away...

I didn't get what I had done wrong, so I asked someone (Poss Mike South - But dont quote me on that) what the problem was. I was told that the girl worked basically for tips, and I had insulted her! I DID NOT KNOW THAT! I thought that she was being paid to 'sell me' a ten dollar beer - and she had... & that was that...

But I did feel really guilty when I realized, and went off looking for her to give her another $10 as a tip... However, I couldn't find her, and even to this day, I still feel guilty about it !

Needless to say, lesson learnt, and cultural differences understood, from that point on, I was always sure to tip, and to tip genourisly everywhere I went in the USA for the next 8 years...

On the flipside though, I went to a Dennys with a female coworker in SD one day, and after the meal, I went to the bathroom. When I returned to the table, she said that while I had been in the toilet, she had paid the bill. I asked idf she had tipped (Cause I wanted to make sure) and she said yep, all taken care of... So we left.

Day or so later, based on my car reg plate - Police showed up, asking why I had 'Dined and Dashed' !

Not only had she not tipped - She hadn't even fucking paid!

But, if you have read this far, my point is, dont jump on the 'Euros' and bad tippers or skinflints... Truth is, a lot of us (Like Myself) simply may not know!

After all, you americans are used to it, brought up with it - Its normal. But for UK peeps, not so much

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Dating Port Useless As Ever Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 731	I took two friends out to lunch. While there we ran out of beverages and the waiter promptly came and refilled both their glasses, looked straight at me and walked away without refilling mine. I'm black and both of them were white. Well when we left, I paid the whole bill (I took THEM out to lunch) and left no tip. The waiter chased us out to the car demanding his tip. I told him he should take better care on whose paying the bill and not to assume I'm just tagging along on my white friends. I just closed the door in his face and we all had a good laugh on the way back to work. I normally tip very well according to the service and the custom. It s expected here in the US. __________________ Email: admin[at]datingport.co.uk - ICQ: 456416181 It's amazing what you (L)earn when you put some effort into it! Last edited by Dating Port; 05-03-2012 at 02:45 PM..

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CurrentlySober Too lazy to wipe my ass Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A Public Bathroom Posts: 38,571	I'm gonna share my lil tip story with you all, if you wanna read it... Sorry if it gets a little long, (AKA A "Markhamesque" wall of text...) but I promise not to mention 'poo' - Whoops - Just did ! Being from the UK, and only really used to tipping in fancy restaurants, I made my first trip to the USA in 1999 It was a biz thing. I was there with my wife, who was appearing at different locations as part of a 'Caravan of Stars' at 'The Tampa Show' I ended up with her, and about 30 other pornstars and 20 or husbands and BFs in the VIP are of a 'strip club'... Believe it or not, I didn't really want to be at the strip club at all, as I was Jet-lagged from my flight etc, and not really interested in seeing (more) naked girls etc... But I kinda went along with the crowd, if only to 'Support' my wife... Pretty girl (Who worked there) approaches and say - Would you like a drink sir? I asked her how much for what I wanted, she said $10 (For a beer) and I thought, well, thats steep, for a beer, but well, I can afford it, so yeah, ok go ahead... She says she'll be back with it... I find a ten dollar bill (Still not used to the money, as to me, it all looked the same) and have it ready, for when she returned. She handed me my drink, I said thanks and handed her the $10 and it was dark, and kinda noisy, but as she walked away, she looked at the bill, gave me a filthy look, and said something that sounded like an insult (but I couldn't hear it over noise) and walked away... I didn't get what I had done wrong, so I asked someone (Poss Mike South - But dont quote me on that) what the problem was. I was told that the girl worked basically for tips, and I had insulted her! I DID NOT KNOW THAT! I thought that she was being paid to 'sell me' a ten dollar beer - and she had... & that was that... But I did feel really guilty when I realized, and went off looking for her to give her another $10 as a tip... However, I couldn't find her, and even to this day, I still feel guilty about it ! Needless to say, lesson learnt, and cultural differences understood, from that point on, I was always sure to tip, and to tip genourisly everywhere I went in the USA for the next 8 years... On the flipside though, I went to a Dennys with a female coworker in SD one day, and after the meal, I went to the bathroom. When I returned to the table, she said that while I had been in the toilet, she had paid the bill. I asked idf she had tipped (Cause I wanted to make sure) and she said yep, all taken care of... So we left. Day or so later, based on my car reg plate - Police showed up, asking why I had 'Dined and Dashed' ! Not only had she not tipped - She hadn't even fucking paid! But, if you have read this far, my point is, dont jump on the 'Euros' and bad tippers or skinflints... Truth is, a lot of us (Like Myself) simply may not know! After all, you americans are used to it, brought up with it - Its normal. But for UK peeps, not so much __________________ My AI Handywork... My Dream Gal... XXX 👁️ 👍️ 💩

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	It's weird because your English is very good but still you have that typical Russian language thing.

05-03-2012, 02:42 PM	#184
Nembrionic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,424	I love how a thread aimed at bashing on black people not paying tips turned into a fuckfest between a clown and a Russian. Oleg Popov is dying inside.