Trump: "And I noticed all of that beautiful barbed wire going up today."

[sarettah]

Title says it all



US troops lay barbed wire along border - Story | WFLD

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...my/1852789002/





Nothing says "Home of the free" quite like barbed wire.

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[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Title says it all

US troops lay barbed wire along border - Story | WFLD

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...my/1852789002/



Nothing says "Home of the free" quite like barbed wire.

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Depends on the use.. To keep people in or to keep people out?

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Depends on the use.. To keep people in or to keep people out?

The same barbed wire used to keep people out can just as easily be used to keep you in.

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[RedFred]

Trump cultists idea of Utopia

[OneHungLo]

You have a problem with putting up temporary barbwire to keep a hoard of illegals out that are assaulting, firebombing and shooting at Mexican police? But you're against illegals...riiiiight

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

You have a problem with putting up temporary barbwire to keep a hoard of illegals out that are assaulting, firebombing and shooting at Mexican police? But you're against illegals...riiiiight

1. The word is horde, not hoard.

2. The barbed wire is being put up to keep out a bunch of unarmed people that are apparently seeking asylum. I have seen no reports of them assaulting, fiirebombing or shooting at Mexican police.

3. I don't think you will find any post by me saying that I am against immigration either legal or illegal. I fully believe that immigration makes us a better, stronger nation.

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[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by RedFred

Trump cultists idea of Utopia

Liberal cultists idea of Utopia

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by sarettah

1. The word is horde, not hoard.

It's a typo. It's past my bedtime.

Originally Posted by sarettah

2. The barbed wire is being put up to keep a bunch of unarmed people that are apparently seeking asylum. I have seen no reports of them assaulting, fiirebombing or shooting at Mexican police.

^ are these the people you want coming here?

Originally Posted by sarettah

3. I don't think you will find any post by me saying that I am against immigration either legal or illegal. I fully believe that immigration makes us a better, stronger nation.

Something tells me you're not surrounded by much "diversity." Go to wikipedia and pull up your town/city and tell me the demographics. Just curious to see how much "diversity" you're experiencing.

[GFED]

For the horde!

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by sarettah

1. The word is horde, not hoard.

2. The barbed wire is being put up to keep out a bunch of unarmed people that are apparently seeking asylum. I have seen no reports of them assaulting, fiirebombing or shooting at Mexican police.

3. I don't think you will find any post by me saying that I am against immigration either legal or illegal. I fully believe that immigration makes us a better, stronger nation.

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Armed Migrants in Caravan Opened Fire on Mexican Cops, Say Authorities
https://www.breitbart.com/border/201...y-authorities/

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I have seen no reports of them assaulting, fiirebombing or shooting at Mexican police.

Armed Migrants in Caravan Opened Fire on Mexican Cops, Say Authorities
https://www.breitbart.com/border/201...y-authorities/

You have now

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Something tells me you're not surrounded by much "diversity."

My wife and I are white middle aged. Both of us are of European ancestry.

My neighbors to the north are white elderly.

My neighbor to the south is a Korean widow.

My neighbors diagonally south across the street were a white gay couple - they recently moved, not sure who is moving in but I know the house has been sold.

Neighbor directly across the street is a black, Jehovah's witnesses couple. They are renters. Not sure who owns the house these days.

Neighbors diagonally to the north are a black couple.

Neighbors 2 houses to the North are a Vietnamese family, I do not know them very well yet.

I do not know the exact make up of the rest of my street. It is a pretty good mix though.

I do not have neighbors behind me. I have a golf course there. Don't get the idea that I am in a rich type neighborhood. The course is public. The houses on the Golf Course side of the street are appraised about 10-20k above the ones on the other side of the street. Most of the people in the neighborhood are blue collar or low end white collar.

I associate with all my immediate neighbors on a regular basis.

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[Acepimp]

Anerica is a sovereign nation with borders- borders that need to be defended. I don't believe anyone on this board is against *legal* immigration.

Fact is that drug trafficking and human trafficking is a huge problem at the border. Common sense Americans have had enough.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by sarettah

2. The barbed wire is being put up to keep out a bunch of unarmed people that are apparently seeking asylum. I have seen no reports of them assaulting, fiirebombing or shooting at Mexican police.

3. I don't think you will find any post by me saying that I am against immigration either legal or illegal. I fully believe that immigration makes us a better, stronger nation.

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spoken like a true American.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by sarettah

My wife and I are white middle aged. Both of us are of European ancestry.

My neighbors to the north are white elderly.

My neighbor to the south is a Korean widow.

My neighbors diagonally south across the street were a white gay couple - they recently moved, not sure who is moving in but I know the house has been sold.

Neighbor directly across the street is a black, Jehovah's witnesses couple. They are renters. Not sure who owns the house these days.

Neighbors diagonally to the north are a black couple.

Neighbors 2 houses to the North are a Vietnamese family, I do not know them very well yet.

I do not know the exact make up of the rest of my street. It is a pretty good mix though.

I do not have neighbors behind me. I have a golf course there. Don't get the idea that I am in a rich type neighborhood. The course is public. The houses on the Golf Course side of the street are appraised about 10-20k above the ones on the other side of the street. Most of the people in the neighborhood are blue collar or low end white collar.

I associate with all my immediate neighbors on a regular basis.

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Just out of curiosity, what are the demographics?

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Armed Migrants in Caravan Opened Fire on Mexican Cops, Say Authorities
https://www.breitbart.com/border/201...y-authorities/

They attempted to shoot from what I read in there and the Secretary of the Interior's statement. Gun jammed and the 2 kids were taken into custody.

So, ok, someone had a gun, I will give you that. That is 1 gun I have heard of in a Caravan that involves some 7000 people.

That does not make hordes of people shooting at the police.

In reference to the Youtube video, that is a group still in Guatemala, not one of the caravans currently proceeding across Mexico. Nonetheless, they are attacking the gates.

Still doesn't change my mind on immigrants and immigration. People will do a lot to get to somewhere where they are free.

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[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Title says it all



US troops lay barbed wire along border - Story | WFLD

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...my/1852789002/





Nothing says "Home of the free" quite like barbed wire.

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It is beautiful. It’s majestic

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by sarettah

The same barbed wire used to keep people out can just as easily be used to keep you in.

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This is why there are legal border crossings. The ones you show your ID at? Yea, those

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Just out of curiosity, what are the demographics?

I am not sure of the exact neighborhood demographics.

We are a mile or so inside of Kansas City, MO city limits, south of the river.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-...ty-population/

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[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I am not sure of the exact neighborhood demographics.

We are a mile or so inside of Kansas City, MO city limits, south of the river.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-...ty-population/

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It's very easy to figure that out. Google>city/town>wikipedia>demographics. Just tell me the racial makeup of the city town where you live.

[Acepimp]

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

It's very easy to figure that out. Google>city/town>wikipedia>demographics. Just tell me the racial makeup of the city town where you live.

I told you. Kansas City is where I live. I also posted a link to the demographics for Kansas City. There is no other town involved. But Kansas City does have neighborhoods. When I check wikipedia for my neighborhood there is no page.

Thus, I do not know the demographics for my exact neighborhood and will just have to figure it is not much different than the average Kansas city neighborhood.

The racial breakdown for KC MO, from wikipedia is:

White: 59.2% (non-Hispanic white: 54.9%)
Black or African American: 29.9%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race): 10.0%
Some other race: 4.5% (primarily Latino)
Two or more races: 3.2%
Asian: 2.5%
Native American: 0.5%
Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander: 0.2%


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[dyna mo]

trump's following europe. they proved razor wire works better to keep the women and children out


proofed

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

It's a typo. It's past my bedtime.

Anytime is past your bedtime.

Something tells me you're not surrounded by much "diversity." .

I am lucky to live where I live. I live in a great neighbourhood made up of mostly people who either immigrated here, or who's parents immigrated here. There are also some black people, at least one Muslim family, and at least 1 Mexican family.

One house down the street is home to a gay couple.

We all bought our houses brand new, meaning we all new to the area.

Last night we went out with 2 of our neighbours for dinner. The night before I hung out with 7 of my other neighbours around a camp fire in his back yard. Everyone gets along with everything else really well but you know what else? Many of them are sharing stories of how they arrived to Canada, with nothing more than the clothes on their backs. They are all wonderful people and I'm thrilled to live in the same neighbourhood as them.

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

^ are these the people you want coming here?

Out of all the trolls on GFY, I think you must be the one who hates himself the most. I don't know what happened to you to fill you with so much hate for people that you do not even know, and especially are so hard up.

Tell me something - what would you do if you were at the border waiting for them to cross. Would you scream and yell and call them names? Would you hit a man or a woman carrying a child? Would you throw rocks at them? If you had a gun would you fire at them? Serious question - I really want to know.

You have to stop listening people like Alex Jones and Infowars. Jones and people like him will just spew out fear and hate. If you let him he'll destroy you.

Come on OneHungLo enough is enough. Grow some balls and have some self respect. Think about what is happening and how it is about to get much much worse unless someone takes a stand.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Those Pictures were taken in 2014 and is not even in Mexico.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I told you. Kansas City is where I live. I also posted a link to the demographics for Kansas City. There is no other town involved. But Kansas City does have neighborhoods. When I check wikipedia for my neighborhood there is no page.

Thus, I do not know the demographics for my exact neighborhood and will just have to figure it is not much different than the average Kansas city neighborhood.

The racial breakdown for KC MO, from wikipedia is:

White: 59.2% (non-Hispanic white: 54.9%)
Black or African American: 29.9%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race): 10.0%
Some other race: 4.5% (primarily Latino)
Two or more races: 3.2%
Asian: 2.5%
Native American: 0.5%
Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander: 0.2%


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So you live right in downtown Kansas City, Missouri? Or do you live in one of these suburbs that make up KC ?

Overland Park, Kansas
Kansas City, Kansas
Olathe, Kansas0
Independence, Missouri
Lee's Summit, Missouri
Shawnee, Kansas
Blue Springs, Missouri
Lenexa, Kansas

[BaldBastard]

I've read that they're also expecting 4-6000 Trump clucked Militaria to surge on the area, many are there now living on their Alex Jones survival packs, washed down with beers more nourishing food is being supplied by Chick'O fill for main meals.

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Those Pictures were taken in 2014 and is not even in Mexico.

I was skeptical.. those pics look old as shit.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Come on OneHungLo enough is enough. Grow some balls and have some self respect. Think about what is happening and how it is about to get much much worse unless someone takes a stand.

Mark did you see these people? Did you see what they are doing? Many of them are criminals with no education or skills. They've already fled their country and can stay in Mexico but they want to come to the USA for one thing: THE FREEBIES. We just can't help everyone in the world. There's over 5 billion people in the world living in poverty and we can't help them all. They need to stay and make their country better.

And spare me the diversity bit. You're in Canada.

[MFCT]

You're all so racist. Don't you realize that the fence is there to protect them from the acute racism and discrimination that's waiting for them in the most racist, white-supremacist shithole on earth? AKA the USA.

Those poor people have been lied to that the USA is a great place to live. Its not! Its home to the KKK and white people. They've probably never experienced racism in their entire lives. And its all they'd experience in the USA. You want them to experience racism? Then you're racist. Tell 'em, Poppy!



https://youtu.be/79hRMiSMxFY

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

So you live right in downtown Kansas City, Missouri? Or do you live in one of these suburbs that make up KC ?

Overland Park, Kansas
Kansas City, Kansas
Olathe, Kansas0
Independence, Missouri
Lee's Summit, Missouri
Shawnee, Kansas
Blue Springs, Missouri
Lenexa, Kansas

I live inside Kansas City Missouri city limits. I am not in a suburb. All those you listed are suburbs of Kansas City with the exception of Kansas City, KS which is a whole different city.

I do not live in downtown Kansas City. Kansas city is very broad, encompassing many many miles. The downtown area is probably less than a mile and is predominantly businesses. Very few people live in downtown Kansas City although they are trying to lure more people there. There are lots of lofts going up. Rent is high in Downtown Kansas City and most of the development is new.

I live on the East Side. If you look in wikipedia you will see that the East side is composed of about 31 different neighborhoods. Some are poorer, some are richer, some are whiter, some are blacker and some are more hispanic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neighb...nsas#East_Side

The richest areas of Kansas City proper are to the South of Downtown, along Ward Parkway and the State Line. These are older, traditionally white neighborhoods.

Like most spread out cities there are areas that are very diverse and some that are not. For instance, the area called Northeast (even though it is not North of the river and it is not particularly to the East) is traditionally white blue collar Italian. It is right alongside inner city which is traditionally Black.

Troost avenue is the traditional dividing line between black and white in KC. White people live West of Troost, Black people live East of Troost. I live east of Troost but farther east than the traditionally black area extends. I am in the Raytown School District but inside Kansas City Limits.

Raytown is pretty much surrounded by Kansas City and it's demographics, racially, are near to Kansas City's demographics, a little whiter.

67.7% White,
25.1% African American,
0.5% Native American,
1.0% Asian,
0.2% Pacific Islander,
1.9% from other races,
and 3.5% from two or more races.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raytown,_Missouri


Edited in: I like diversity. It is really boring when everybody is the same.

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[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Edited in: I like diversity. It is really boring when everybody is the same.

FACT: Diversity destroys communities and entire nations.

Cohesive systems can not be put in place when you've got high representations of multiple groups doing their own thing. Nations that are nearly 100% white can have nice things. Look at Scandinavia (though that is changing with the muz arriving). The middle classes of Sweden, Denmark and Finland live better than American middle class. That's because they are a community of white people all on the same page working towards the same goals.

Meanwhile, there in the US we've got groups with parasitic behaviors deeply ingrained in their cultures draining the system. White people can't work hard enough and pay enough taxes to care for these lifetime welfare cases. Funny thing is, if these parasites were gone the left could actually get their dream socialist programs because it would free up enough money to cover it.

[CaptainHowdy]

[directfiesta]

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Anerica is a sovereign nation with borders- borders that need to be defended. I don't believe anyone on this board is against *legal* immigration.

Fact is that drug trafficking and human trafficking is a huge problem at the border. Common sense Americans have had enough.

Anerica is not a sovereign country.
America is a continent (in which Hawaï is not located).
You live in the U. S. A.

[wehateporn]

Being surrounded by sea helped Britain over the years

[Rochard]

How is the barbed wire going to stop these people from going to a point of entry and then filling out a form asking for asylum?

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Mark did you see these people? Did you see what they are doing? Many of them are criminals with no education or skills.

Dude, Infowars is showing videos NOT from the Caravan.

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

And spare me the diversity bit. You're in Canada.

Geeze...

https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/nhs-enm/...011001-eng.cfm
https://globalnews.ca/news/4619078/c...migrants-2021/

[beerptrol]

I noticed all those beautiful made in china tags




And I noticed all those guilty pleas/verdicts



MAGA

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Rochard

How is the barbed wire going to stop these people from going to a point of entry and then filling out a form asking for asylum?

Applying for asylum doesn't mean they will get it. Single males of working age are economic migrants. Did they leave their families behind to suffer?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I fully believe that immigration makes us a better, stronger nation.

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Why?

Mass migration is proven to cost 10s of $billions a year. Education, health, police, housing, etc. Then worse of all it lowers wages at the bottom of the scale, driving spending and taxes down while the need to spend is driven up.



Higher taxes to pay for more Social security, Medicaid, Income Security, etc. Is that your idea of "a better, stronger nation."?

Migrants must be able to support themselves totally and contribute to their new home.

If anyone can make a good argument for mass unregulated migration. Please try I'm willing to discuss facts.

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Why?

Mass migration is proven to cost 10s of $billions a year. Education, health, police, housing, etc. Then worse of all it lowers wages at the bottom of the scale, driving spending and taxes down while the need to spend is driven up.



Higher taxes to pay for more Social security, Medicaid, Income Security, etc. Is that your idea of "a better, stronger nation."?

Migrants must be able to support themselves totally and contribute to their new home.

If anyone can make a good argument for mass unregulated migration. Please try I'm willing to discuss facts.

What your little chart completely ignores is military spending eats up 54% of the total budget.

Furthermore, migrant workers who are not getting paid under the table get taxes and Social Security taken out of their pay even though most will never get any of those benefits back. If they're getting paid under the table then the corporations are to blame. They are also putting money back into the local economy and paying taxes on those goods bought.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by RedFred

What your little chart completely ignores is military spending eats up 54% of the total budget.

Furthermore, migrant workers who are not getting paid under the table get taxes and Social Security taken out of their pay even though most will never get any of those benefits back. If they're getting paid under the table then the corporations are to blame. They are also putting money back into the local economy and paying taxes on those goods bought.

I know that military spending is high.

Low wage workers contribute less than they take out of the system. Educating their children, health, housing, policing, etc. They are lowering wages which means more people have less to spend. Then as they retire and stay in the West, they expect pensions. Then there are the workers being paid under the table because they can.

The biggest problem now is paying the huge bills mass migration has caused. With more people on lower wages it has lowered tax revenues and spending.

[dyna mo]

#AbolishICENow

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I know that military spending is high.

Low wage workers contribute less than they take out of the system. Educating their children, health, housing, policing, etc. They are lowering wages which means more people have less to spend. Then as they retire and stay in the West, they expect pensions. Then there are the workers being paid under the table because they can.

The biggest problem now is paying the huge bills mass migration has caused. With more people on lower wages it has lowered tax revenues and spending.

You don't know very much about the US. Pensions??

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Anerica is a sovereign nation with borders- borders that need to be defended. I don't believe anyone on this board is against *legal* immigration.

Fact is that drug trafficking and human trafficking is a huge problem at the border. Common sense Americans have had enough.

what about trying to go to the roots of the drug problem ?

why do americans have to pay so MUCH for medical treatement and legal drugs that they have to buy this drugs MUCH cheaper on the street?

the drug problem is a home made problem. and if you don´t know it you are fucking uniformed.

diabetics have to travel to canada because they get the insulin (produced in america) there for a third of the price.
almost all drugs prescribed in the USA against stress or burnout contain heroin.

and you don't think the millions of people who get it written on their prescription every day will be addicted to it?

just like your country can't survive without the cheap productions from low-wage countries - just like drug-addicted people can't survive without the cheap supplies.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I know that military spending is high.

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You know it's high? It's not even on the chart you fucking moron.

What's the source of that chart? Some conservative asshole made that.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Applying for asylum doesn't mean they will get it. Single males of working age are economic migrants. Did they leave their families behind to suffer?

It's doesn't fucking matter. Trump is making it out to be that thousands of people are going to be storming the border. This is not the case. They are coming to seek asylum. Which means they go to a port of entry, talk to US customs, and apply for asylum.

On top of this, ninety percent of these people drop out - because they have to stop and get work to feed themselves.

Then... The military is legally unable to do ANYTHING. They are legally unable to arrest anyone. The US military is not to be used for arresting refugees on US soil.

This is a massive waste of money, time, and resources, with the only intention of helping Republicans win elections during the midterms.

This should be against the law.

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Those Pictures were taken in 2014 and is not even in Mexico.

Ok, it's still an accurate representation of what's happening.

Armed Migrants in Caravan Opened Fire on Mexican Cops, Say Authorities

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

You have a problem with putting up temporary barbwire to keep a hoard of illegals out

I just found a video of the hordes and what they are doing. It has apparently been going on for a long fucking time. Oh, how could I be so naive?

Oh, Alas and alack and woe is me.



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