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Ayla_SquareTurtle · 06-30-2010, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

the issue here is if it was some cute white lady wanting to protest for or against abortion, she would have been allowed

Please tell me you don't actually believe that.

Restaurant managers don't want their employees taking off for any reason, abortion protest related or otherwise. If 12 pro/anti abortion chicks didn't show up for work and didn't call in, they'd have been fired just as fast.

_Richard_ · 06-30-2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso

For the love of fuck please google "Right to work state" before you start asking about fucking unions.

IT'S PEI WEI. They're getting paid probably 6.90 an hour to wash dishes and prepare cafeteria style food, nobody gives a fuck about their jobs, apparently not even them.

i did that yesterday, and i'm not asking about unions, i'm asking if the people paying these $6.90 cent workers are crackheads

do you know?

_Richard_ · 06-30-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

Please tell me you don't actually believe that.

Restaurant managers don't want their employees taking off for any reason, abortion protest related or otherwise. If 12 pro/anti abortion chicks didn't show up for work and didn't call in, they'd have been fired just as fast.

yea you're right

good luck with the cultural war you guys are losing

06-30-2010, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

the issue here is if it was some cute white lady wanting to protest for or against abortion, she would have been allowed

what happened, is you have a case of class discrimination

but hey, whatever right?

I don't think so. Most jobs are going to fire you for not showing up or calling in. Race is not a factor in this matter. I think it is sad that so many of you have to bring race into so many of these threads. People need to protest when they are not working.

Ayla_SquareTurtle · 06-30-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

yea you're right

good luck with the cultural war you guys are losing

Don't wish me luck, I'm not the one waging the war.

will76 · 07-01-2010, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

They obviously thought that they were exempt from any rules...go figure

What do you expect from a country that allows people to come here and break the law from day 1 and then reward them for doing it.

KillerK · 07-01-2010, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

yea you're right

good luck with the cultural war you guys are losing

You are a big fucking idiot.

/THREAD

will76 · 07-01-2010, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

the issue here is if it was some cute white lady wanting to protest for or against abortion, she would have been allowed

what happened, is you have a case of class discrimination

but hey, whatever right?

lol you ever work in a restaurant?? It's not like an affiliate rep job online or a sub contractor job where you can make your own hours or come and go as you please. They don't give a fuck why you missing work, unless you are in the hospital or someone died, your ass better be at work.

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

the people who were fired were legally supposed to be there, i'm assuming, or it would have been out by now that they were aliens

again, a lot of grey areas

they were suppose to be at work. period. You don't show up for work, chances are you get fired. Do you know what happens when people don't show up for work? The business usually suffers and gives poor service to the customers because they are under staffed. The business owner losses customers and money.

Naechy · 07-01-2010, 12:35 AM

they think they will get it, no

baddog · 07-01-2010, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JaneB

I don't think so. Most jobs are going to fire you for not showing up or calling in. Race is not a factor in this matter. I think it is sad that so many of you have to bring race into so many of these threads. People need to protest when they are not working.

And he wonders why I suggest he is a racist.

Tom_PM · 07-01-2010, 09:00 AM

I once fired a cute and sexy white girl because she didnt show up for a weekend she was scheduled to work. It was mid summer and her boyfriend took her to a lake party that lasted all weekend, and there simply werent ANY phones you guys! lmfao. I guess she thought she was worth keeping around for decoration. Not.

Jon Oso · 07-01-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

i did that yesterday, and i'm not asking about unions, i'm asking if the people paying these $6.90 cent workers are crackheads

do you know?

How the fuck would I know?

Keep trolling dude, you're doing a great job.

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

why is a local union supporting these people?

You're not asking about unions? Okay.

So yes, they are crack heads, you are 100% right now go away.

_Richard_ · 07-01-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

lol you ever work in a restaurant?? It's not like an affiliate rep job online or a sub contractor job where you can make your own hours or come and go as you please. They don't give a fuck why you missing work, unless you are in the hospital or someone died, your ass better be at work.

they were suppose to be at work. period. You don't show up for work, chances are you get fired. Do you know what happens when people don't show up for work? The business usually suffers and gives poor service to the customers because they are under staffed. The business owner losses customers and money.

if you had read the thread, i did say there is a grey areas and the bottom line was they should have been at work

on the other hand, we don't hear too much about white people in arizona being fired for wanting to protest

why would that be?

_Richard_ · 07-01-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerK

You are a big fucking idiot.

/THREAD

for saying there is grey areas in a HR matter? how so?

_Richard_ · 07-01-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso

How the fuck would I know?

Keep trolling dude, you're doing a great job.

You're not asking about unions? Okay.

So yes, they are crack heads, you are 100% right now go away.

http://www.iww.org/en/blog

these guys are crackheads? it's an international union who also does work fighting for rights on the internet

guess you were 100% wrong

baddog · 07-01-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

if you had read the thread, i did say there is a grey areas and the bottom line was they should have been at work

on the other hand, we don't hear too much about white people in arizona being fired for wanting to protest

why would that be?

Because they don't ignore work to do so and if they do they don't come whining to the press about it when the inevitable happens.

Your trolling skills are diminishing as this continues.

_Richard_ · 07-01-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Because they don't ignore work to do so and if they do they don't come whining to the press about it when the inevitable happens.

Your trolling skills are diminishing as this continues.

my what?

you're making blanket general statements that have no basis in reality, and trying to fill the holes by flinging insults around like a teenager?

i have a different opinion than you or most of the people here, that doesn't make me a 'fucking moron' or a 'troll' or whatever has been come up with to cover up the basic principle of this matter.

i am an idiot for bothering, if that makes you feel better.

Sly · 07-01-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

if you had read the thread, i did say there is a grey areas and the bottom line was they should have been at work

on the other hand, we don't hear too much about white people in arizona being fired for wanting to protest

why would that be?

Why on earth would the news report about white people complaining over being fired on an immigration protest? That isn't news. Nobody cares what white people do.

White Guy kills white guy, who cares, no big deal. White guy kills black guy, black guy kills white guy... that's news because it is nice and juicy and full of racial tension.

_Richard_ · 07-01-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Why on earth would the news report about white people complaining over being fired on an immigration protest? That isn't news. Nobody cares what white people do.

White Guy kills white guy, who cares, no big deal. White guy kills black guy, black guy kills white guy... that's news because it is nice and juicy and full of racial tension.

whatever floats your boat

baddog · 07-01-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

http://www.iww.org/en/blog

these guys are crackheads? it's an international union who also does work fighting for rights on the internet

guess you were 100% wrong

What part of it impresses you? That they are "international," a "union" or that they are on the Internet?

_Richard_ · 07-01-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

What part of it impresses you? That they are "international," a "union" or that they are on the Internet?

font was pretty

run along

baddog · 07-01-2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

my what?

Your trolling. There is no way you could mean everything you have put in this thread. It is one thing to come in with an opinion based on one's personal ideals, but after being shown how those ideals are not based on any semblance of reality, you might want to either acknowledge your error in judgment or just leave it alone. You keep returning to it, hence, trolling.

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you're making blanket general statements that have no basis in reality,

I believe you have that backwards. What statement(s) have I made that were blanket and not based on reality?

will76 · 07-01-2010, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

if you had read the thread, i did say there is a grey areas and the bottom line was they should have been at work

There is no "grey area". You have a schedule for work, you miss it you get fired unless you are sick or have a really really good reason. black, white, brown, red, color doesn't matter.

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

on the other hand, we don't hear too much about white people in arizona being fired for wanting to protest

why would that be?

maybe because white people are more responsible and aren't skipping work ?? Maybe because the media is whores and white people being fired it not exciting enough for them to write about. Maybe there isn't that many white people protesting compared to the mexicans ? Come on dude, you smarter than that.

_Richard_ · 07-01-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

There is no "grey area". You have a schedule for work, you miss it you get fired unless you are sick or have a really really good reason. black, white, brown, red, color doesn't matter.

maybe because white people are more responsible and aren't skipping work ?? Maybe because the media is whores and white people being fired it not exciting enough for them to write about. Maybe there isn't that many white people protesting compared to the mexicans ? Come on dude, you smarter than that.

my opinion is that having a request denied to protest over an issue that has in the past resulted in 1000s of American citizens of Hispanic-decent being illegally deported is a 'really really good reason'.

apparently i am a communist, crackhead, troll, fucking retarded, etc for thinking so.

will76 · 07-01-2010, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

my opinion is that having a request denied to protest over an issue that has in the past resulted in 1000s of American citizens of Hispanic-decent being illegally deported is a 'really really good reason'.

apparently i am a communist, crackhead, troll, fucking retarded, etc for thinking so.

nope, not even close to a good reason. Here are some good reasons:
- very sick.
- in the hospital.
- got in a car accident on way to work.

wanting to go to a protest doesn't even come close to a "good reason" to miss work. It sounds like they were aware if they SKIPPED work to protest that they would be fired. They made their choice, thank god for the USA. They chose to protest over have a job. Why are they bitching now? They knew what was going to happen and they made their choice. You have no idea how much a business suffers when a lot of the staff just doesn't show up for work. These people are irresponsible and obviously don't value their jobs or understand responsibility. They could have got someone else to switch shifts with them, they could have went before or after their shift. They could have just quit and told their boss they weren't coming and then went and found a new job. No, they just didn't show up and then think they could go back like nothing happened lol. morons.

dav3 · 07-01-2010, 03:38 PM

12 people no-call no-showed and they wonder why they got fired?

Some people are just un-fucking-believable.

_Richard_ · 07-01-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

nope, not even close to a good reason. Here are some good reasons:
- very sick.
- in the hospital.
- got in a car accident on way to work.

wanting to go to a protest doesn't even come close to a "good reason" to miss work. It sounds like they were aware if they SKIPPED work to protest that they would be fired. They made their choice, thank god for the USA. They chose to protest over have a job. Why are they bitching now?

generally i agree with that.. problem is i think the current political and racial issues that are outstanding, and directly tied into this matter, calls for independent arbitration.

I base that on people being denied the right to protest, at 9am, on a Saturday morning, at a chinese restaurant, in AZ.

is dim sum that big down there? lol

baddog · 07-01-2010, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

my opinion is that having a request denied to protest over an issue that has in the past resulted in 1000s of American citizens of Hispanic-decent being illegally deported is a 'really really good reason'.

apparently i am a communist, crackhead, troll, fucking retarded, etc for thinking so.

1) They were not denied. They never asked if they could be off. They just did nto show up.

2) Do you honestly think an employer schedules people to work if they are not needed? It takes time to prepare a restaurant to begin business each day.

3) Have you ever had a real 9-5, M-F job?

_Richard_ · 07-01-2010, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

1) They were not denied. They never asked if they could be off. They just did nto show up.

2) Do you honestly think an employer schedules people to work if they are not needed? It takes time to prepare a restaurant to begin business each day.

3) Have you ever had a real 9-5, M-F job?

'The union said at least some of the workers had asked to be granted the day off but were denied.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/community/c...#ixzz0sTkHN8m2
'

RyuLion · 07-01-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

We all think of illegal immigrants as Mexicans. I wonder how many of them were here illegally?

Do you still think I'm illegal?

baddog · 07-01-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

'The union said at least some of the workers had asked to be granted the day off but were denied.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/community/c...#ixzz0sTkHN8m2
'

So, 12 people come up and say they all want the same day and time off. You think it should be granted because it is a really, really good reason.

How about answers to the other two questions.

Jon Oso · 07-01-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

http://www.iww.org/en/blog

these guys are crackheads? it's an international union who also does work fighting for rights on the internet

guess you were 100% wrong

Did you even read what I typed?

DO YOU LIVE IN AMERICA?
DO YOU WORK FOR PEI WEI?
WERE YOU FIRED FOR GOING TO A PROTEST?
KNOW ANYONE THAT WAS FIRED FROM PEI WEI?
EVEN LIVED IN ARIZONA OR STAYED FOR MORE THAN A WEEK?

NO?

THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP, NOBODY CARES WHAT CANADA THINKS

sicone · 07-01-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

this is where we start speculating on the details, and we get into grey areas

i'm just saying that it's a hot topic and definitely a publicity stunt in the end

Did you read the post/article or are you just posting to post...

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"When employees choose not to show up for a scheduled shift and choose not to give notice, it causes tremendous disruption to fellow co-workers and impedes our ability to serve our guests," the company said in a statement.

Now, what exactly are we speculating on?

_Richard_ · 07-01-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

So, 12 people come up and say they all want the same day and time off. You think it should be granted because it is a really, really good reason.

How about answers to the other two questions.

no, i think there should be independent arbitration

you first statement turned out to be bs.. no more time on you old man

_Richard_ · 07-01-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone

Did you read the post/article or are you just posting to post...

Now, what exactly are we speculating on?

read it, and that's a statement from one party

thus, the need for independent arbitration

_Richard_ · 07-01-2010, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso

Did you even read what I typed?

DO YOU LIVE IN AMERICA?
DO YOU WORK FOR PEI WEI?
WERE YOU FIRED FOR GOING TO A PROTEST?
KNOW ANYONE THAT WAS FIRED FROM PEI WEI?
EVEN LIVED IN ARIZONA OR STAYED FOR MORE THAN A WEEK?

NO?

THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP, NOBODY CARES WHAT CANADA THINKS

why bother reading anything you say?

Jon Oso · 07-01-2010, 05:52 PM

Let's see.

I've lived in Arizona since '98.
I worked in the service industry from 06 until the beginning of this year.
I spent from 07 until this year in SERVICE INDUSTRY MANAGEMENT.

I'd say WHAT I HAVE TO SAY about the matter holds pretty significant relevance to this particular subject.

You are a moron though, so it might be hard to comprehend that.

_Richard_ · 07-01-2010, 06:36 PM

i prefer talking about these subjects in a collected manner.

Jon Oso · 07-01-2010, 08:52 PM

You're talking out your ass in a collected manner.

brassmonkey · 07-01-2010, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso

Let's see.

I've lived in Arizona since '98.
I worked in the service industry from 06 until the beginning of this year.
I spent from 07 until this year in SERVICE INDUSTRY MANAGEMENT.

I'd say WHAT I HAVE TO SAY about the matter holds pretty significant relevance to this particular subject.

You are a moron though, so it might be hard to comprehend that.

im born and raised here and most likely ill die here(hopefully snorting coke off some monster tits

)

will76 · 07-01-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

'The union said at least some of the workers had asked to be granted the day off but were denied.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/community/c...#ixzz0sTkHN8m2
'

yeah maybe because they were.... um... let's see... actually needed at their jobs? Which is why they were scheduled to be at work on Saturday at 9am. No way that couldn't be it. Their bosses were just racist and didn't want to let them go join the protest... some of you people are really fucking dense.

will76 · 07-01-2010, 10:27 PM

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"When employees choose not to show up for a scheduled shift and choose not to give notice, it causes tremendous disruption to fellow co-workers and impedes our ability to serve our guests," the company said in a statement.

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

read it, and that's a statement from one party

thus, the need for independent arbitration

are you a fucking moron... That " statement " is fact. That is exactly what happens at a restaurant (and many other places of business) when a couple people don't show up for work, muchless 12 people not showing up. The other workers have to try to do their own work PLUS the work of the people who didn't show up. Service sucks because they are too understaffed, customer get mad and leave. It costs the business a lot of money. Why don't you just shut the fuck up with this bull shit. You have no clue what the hell you talking about.

What the fuck you think happened, eveything was good as usual with 12 people not there working doing their job? They scheduled those people for a reason, because they were needed.

brassmonkey · 07-01-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

yeah maybe because they were.... um... let's see... actually needed at their jobs? Which is why they were scheduled to be at work on Saturday at 9am. No way that couldn't be it. Their bosses were just racist and didn't want to let them go join the protest... some of you people are really fucking dense.

The Phoenix branch of a union, the Industrial Workers of the World, is giving moral and financial support to the fired workers, although the employees were not unionized.

their out of gas fell flat on their ass and they will have no cash.

the lady that didnt speak english worked there 10 years what a fuckin dummy.

will76 · 07-01-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

1)
3) Have you ever had a real 9-5, M-F job?

someone needs to explain to him that all jobs don't work like online affiliate rep gigs.

NETbilling · 07-02-2010, 01:08 AM

I would have fired them as well. No show... down the road you go.

We have over 60 employees at NETbilling and a strict attendance policy. There are many people looking to work.

Nikki_Licks · 07-02-2010, 05:19 AM

Every person has the "RIGHT" to protest.

If you are scheduled for work and your boss gives you a day off, "THAT IS A PRIVLAGE"!
They fucked up plain and simple.

This isn't Canada, Richard, it is America

brassmonkey · 07-02-2010, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Every person has the "RIGHT" to protest.

If you are scheduled for work and your boss gives you a day off, "THAT IS A PRIVLAGE"!
They fucked up plain and simple.

This isn't Canada, Richard, it is America

ive been seeing a lot of race cards being played.

i was trying to figure out how a person that doesnt speak english works there 10 years im guessing in the back

Nikki_Licks · 07-02-2010, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

ive been seeing a lot of race cards being played.

i was trying to figure out how a person that doesnt speak english works there 10 years im guessing in the back

Yep, in the kitchen.

_Richard_ · 07-02-2010, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Every person has the "RIGHT" to protest.

If you are scheduled for work and your boss gives you a day off, "THAT IS A PRIVLAGE"!
They fucked up plain and simple.

This isn't Canada, Richard, it is America

never said it was Canada, i merely suggested there was grey areas and due to the current climate down there it should have independent arbitration or at the very least, state review.

been called a lot of things for simply saying this, which reminds me of Soviet Russia

maybe baddog will disappear me for being sassy

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