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Vjo 09-03-2010 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 17466889)
This thread's too fucking long.. I'm not reading all this shit.

This is the interview today with ePassporte’s business account manager (from post 1081) worth reposting:

By Tom Hymes
Sep 3rd, 2010

SANTA MONICA, Calif.—In response to a call from AVN seeking further clarification on the sudden suspension by Visa of the ability by ePassport’s West Indies-based bank—St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank Ltd.—to process Visa transactions, ePassporte’s business account manager called to comment on the situation.

“The problem,” he said, “is not our bank. Our bank is perfectly fine. Everybody’s money is safe. The issue is literally with Visa. Visa functionality is the only thing that’s down, which means eCards and vCards. We are working to resolve the issue and we will have a resolution by next week, but at this point in time we don’t have any more information and we will contact everyone as soon as we do have any update at all.”

When asked about the increasing concern among some ePassporte clients that their money might remain inaccessible for some time to come, leading them to seek alternative means of delivery, he said, “I think the most important thing right now is for people to be patient until we have a solution. I wouldn’t move any [funds] at this point, because by the time you would receive a wire we’ll either have Visa functionality back up or we will have found another solution.

“The problem,” he added, “is that yesterday we were given about an hour’s notice of the situation, so there really wasn’t enough time for us to prepare any sort of documented statements other than the message that came from our CEO and owner, Christopher Mallick.

“There’s nothing to worry about," he stressed. "It’s an issue with Visa, not with our bank. All of our functions outside of Visa are working perfectly. If people’s funds are in their wallets, they can feel free to contact customer service and do a wire disbursement, but if they can wait, that would be my recommendation. I wouldn’t make any hasty decisions. But we’re not going anywhere; there’s nothing wrong with the business. This was an unforeseen issue, and we’re not exactly sure where it came from on Visa’s side.”

Before hanging up, he once again expressed his hope that calm would prevail over the long holiday weekend, after which the company expects that the situation will be quickly resolved.

“There really is nothing to be panicked about,” he said. “We just have to be patient and see what the solution is. All I can say is that if we had been given more notice, we obviously would have been better prepared and would have contacted all of our clients beforehand.”

In the meantime we have learned that several affiliate programs have sent letters to their affiliates notifying them that they are temporarily suspending the use of ePassporte until the Visa issues are resolved, and recommending that people log in to their accounts and change their payment options to either checks or wire transfers.

saltricter 09-03-2010 09:47 PM

this is horrible news.

spacedog 09-03-2010 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17466916)
.... I wouldn’t move any [funds] at this point, because by the time you would receive a wire we’ll either have Visa functionality back up or we will have found another solution.

Well, that makes it sound like it'll only be a few days.. I hope so.

mmcfadden 09-03-2010 09:50 PM

Someone over extended credit

Vjo 09-03-2010 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 17466924)
Well, that makes it sound like it'll only be a few days.. I hope so.

Indeed that sounds very positive. Doesnt sound like bs. The guy says (in essence) about 3 times that things will be back one way or another to regular operation within a week or so.

He sounds like a tech and not a bs artist to me. :thumbsup

Peter-Porn 09-03-2010 10:11 PM

when is going to end???

will76 09-03-2010 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 17466871)
Try telling the people that have hundreds or thousands locked up in epass (and they're not a program paying out affiliates) that epass is a pass through system only :)

I remember one guy on ADX had tens of thousands in his epass a couple of years ago as a standing balance, didn't seem to be too bothered by the fact that it was an offshore third party... hope he got out :)

Well, it's their bad how they used it :Oh crap It should have never been any thing more than a pass through. I do realize some people loaded it up recently to make payments etc... I guess just bad timing in those cases or people who just received payments but didn't get a chance to move the money.

keeping money in the hands of a third party off shore depending on a bank in the Caribbean + Visa is crazy. The epass service of moving money around was great, just the people who used it like a bank and kept it there were nuts.

Antonio 09-03-2010 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17466769)

If the money is in the bank, then why can't it be moved to the wallet ? The card to wallet transfer is just electronic code, moving numbers from one account to another. Doesn't seem like visa can stop them from saying " Account 1 has $5,000 on the Visa card, since we can't use cards anymore we will put that "$5,000" on his wallet so he can still get it back via wire or do wallet to wallet transactions with out people...


Your logic is good, but banks defy logic - in one of the banks here I have normal (savings I guess) account and a VISA card account. I cannot transfer money from my VISA account to my savings account - I have to go to the ATM and withdraw money with the VISA card or go to the bank and withdraw money from the VISA account and then give them the cash to deposit it to the savings account.

I cannot simply ask them to move say 500 bucks from the VISA account to the savings account .... so all in all Epass and its bank should have a way to move the funds from Visa to wallet, but this would probably take them quite a few days + paper work etc. and that's only if everything is good with the bank and b/n the bank and Epass.

Jaeger 09-03-2010 10:31 PM

just got an email saying my hosting payment has failed (its set up to my epassporte visa)

Wonder how many people's hosting payments will fail? A LOT

Varion 09-03-2010 10:31 PM

Michael O, how to transfer money from personal account to business account?

xmas13 09-03-2010 10:37 PM

Hey Canadians, what's up with the tax obsession. What about looking into your own backyard. Vancouver is a notorious washing machine for 'dirty' money from China. And we are not talking about $1000 here and there, but more like $10 million here and there.

xmas13 09-03-2010 10:41 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/1..._n_340613.html

Quote:

The Government Accountability Office likes to point its finger at Luxembourg and the Cayman Islands for sheltering tax cheats. But according to the U.K.-based Tax Justice Network, the United States is the biggest tax shelter of 'em all, thanks to the great state of Delaware.

Delaware, says the Tax Justice Network, is "the most secretive financial jurisdiction in the world." That's based on an analysis of 60 financial jurisdictions according to level of secrecy and cooperation with foreign tax authorities.

Luxembourg comes in second, followed by the Switzerland, the Cayman Islands, and the United Kingdom.

xmas13 09-03-2010 10:43 PM

Vancouver harbors tax cheats from all over China, London from all over the world, and Delaware from all over the financial galaxy, so...

Please mind your own business, thank you.

jonnydoe 09-03-2010 10:44 PM

Does anyone else find it odd that if the bank partner's visa has been suspended why is that not in Google News? Are the banks only client's porn pushers? This is a pretty big bank (St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank Ltd)....from what I read they look healthy and are actually trying to assume a failed bank along with another bank. Also very odd timing considering this from the LA Times on August 9th...

"While receipts for the well-reviewed "Flipped" were soft, they were far better than the dismal starts for two other movies. "Middle Men," about the beginnings of the online porn industry, grossed just $305,000 at 252 theaters, giving it an average take of only $1,210. Christopher Mallick, one of the movie's subjects, bankrolled its $20-million budget and paid for advertising. It was distributed, for a fee, by Paramount Pictures."

xmas13 09-03-2010 10:50 PM

:winkwink:

http://i55.tinypic.com/fdempd.jpg

bizz 09-03-2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17466081)
Please forward the email to me [email protected]

done ! my email [email protected]

rowan 09-03-2010 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jonnydoe (Post 17466996)
"Middle Men," about the beginnings of the online porn industry, grossed just $305,000 at 252 theaters, giving it an average take of only $1,210. Christopher Mallick, one of the movie's subjects, bankrolled its $20-million budget and paid for advertising. It was distributed, for a fee, by Paramount Pictures."

Holy cow. Don't the studios usually assume the risk when they greenlight a movie? This is the other way around! So Mr. Mallick and his private investors (if any) are basically out $20m?

cam_girls 09-03-2010 11:38 PM

WHOA! Mum managed to send me $100 on a weekend.

All charged up, I was like a kid in a candy store at the supermarket.

Back To Business!

jonnydoe 09-03-2010 11:48 PM

Maybe someone from Visa watched the movie...

Looks like there is another one coming out as well... Mallick Media/Oxymoron Entertainment. Columbus Circle...first listed producer is Christopher Mallick. From the way I read it rowan he paid the $20m to do the film + paid for advertising + paid Paramount to distribute.

Vjo 09-04-2010 12:55 AM

New letter just arrived at epass.

They also removed the Virtual Visa option completely in Wallet Settings.

In the letter they mention they are ready for biz and fund transfers to continue as normal with only the Wallet being used.

So those are good signs.

CYF 09-04-2010 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17467107)
New letter just arrived at epass.

They also removed the Virtual Visa option completely in Wallet Settings.

In the letter they mention they are ready for biz and money transfers to continue as normal with only the Wallet being used.

So those are good signs.

it's the same fucking letter that they posted last time.

Vjo 09-04-2010 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CYF (Post 17467114)
it's the same fucking letter that they posted last time.

Ah fuck your right, sorry. I seen the new message and read it and it sounded different. But yeah, exact same message.

Denny 09-04-2010 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CYF (Post 17467114)
it's the same fucking letter that they posted last time.

yep......

RK 09-04-2010 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYF (Post 17467114)
it's the same fucking letter that they posted last time.

Yep. Nothing new, yet.

CYF 09-04-2010 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RK (Post 17467121)
Yep. Nothing new, yet.

no there's not, it's the same exact message. At least mine is.

Vjo 09-04-2010 01:14 AM

Nope I just analysed them in a text pad and they are the exact same except they are strangely cut up a bit diff. Like longer spaces between paragraphs. But the text is the same.

Kiopa_Matt 09-04-2010 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 17466984)
Hey Canadians, what's up with the tax obsession. What about looking into your own backyard. Vancouver is a notorious washing machine for 'dirty' money from China. And we are not talking about $1000 here and there, but more like $10 million here and there.

heh, have you ever lived in downtown Vancouver. It's quite funny. Classified as the world's most livable city, the downtown is extremely wealthy, clean, etc... yet, almost everything in downtown Van is cash based.

I lived there for over a year, and basically never used my ATM machine, or any plastic. Time to get paid? Visit a client at a cafe, and pickup a ziploc bag full of cash. Time to pay rent? Put 20 $100 bills into an envelope, and wait for the landlord to arrive. Nothing plastic in downtown Van.

Might be one of the wealthier cities out there, but it's a huge black market economy.

Toni 09-04-2010 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17467107)
New letter just arrived at epass.

They also removed the Virtual Visa option completely in Wallet Settings.

In the letter they mention they are ready for biz and fund transfers to continue as normal with only the Wallet being used.

So those are good signs.

I didn't get any new letter

Vjo 09-04-2010 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Toni (Post 17467133)
I didn't get any new letter

Might be a glitch and only some of us got it but no worries, it is the exact same letter as the one yesterday. No need for me to post it.

So if you got at least one letter yesterday from Mr Mallick then you are up to snuff.

FatBastard 09-04-2010 01:26 AM

I doubt anything will get done or announced till start of business next week USA time. As the visa part is frozen over time if it all goes to shit what the current visa policy’s about debit cards will apply imo

AlexUA 09-04-2010 01:30 AM

http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures...nd_is_near.jpg

Denny 09-04-2010 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Toni (Post 17467133)
I didn't get any new letter

same... :error

cam_girls 09-04-2010 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17467128)
Nope I just analysed them in a text pad and they are the exact same except they are strangely cut up a bit diff. Like longer spaces between paragraphs. But the text is the same.

Thanks for that! :thumbsup

Could be a paragraph adjustment conspiracy, what does it really mean?

Ron2k1 09-04-2010 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 17466380)
I'm also worried that Epass might be using a fractional reserve system, in other words, they do not actually have physical "possession" of the sum of their customer's balances... part of that gets tied up in outside investments. The system works (usually) because with enough customers there's an average minimum balance - anything above that (plus a safety margin) can be used for other investment purposes without affecting the company's ability to handle the usual daily deposit and withdrawal operations. Trouble is if those investments lose money then it could be the start of a downward spiral, where the sum of their available cash and unrealised investments is less than the sum of the customer's balances. In other words, they can't pay out everyone. A run on the bank (where a large number of customers withdraw all their money) could leave the remaining customers with cents in the dollar, or nothing. :helpme
.

Yeah this could turn out in a classic bank run

It's pretty common a bank only has about 20% of the funds actually there...

http://www.germaine.be/images/2009/0...nnorthrock.gif

Vjo 09-04-2010 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cam_girls (Post 17467158)
Thanks for that! :thumbsup

Could be a paragraph adjustment conspiracy, what does it really mean?

It is awful weird but what isnt now days. :)

Like someone was reading the orig, leaned on the keyboard by mistake, threw a ? in where an apostrophe was before, (notice that) hit enter a few times here and there and hit SEND. Maybe by mistake.

Or... there could be something way more sinister at work here.

2 options. :)

Nightnday 09-04-2010 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 17462304)
dammitttttttttt

You said it

cam_girls 09-04-2010 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17467165)
It is awful weird but what isnt now days. :)

Like someone was reading the orig, leaned on the keyboard by mistake, threw a ? in where an apostrophe was before, (notice that?) hit enter a few times here and there and hit SEND. Maybe by mistake.


Thanks for that! :thumbsup </SARCASM>

Dude, he sent the same letter and spent 3 seconds prettying it up. FFS

McSpike 09-04-2010 02:02 AM

I've got epass money to spend. Time for some deals!
 
I've got epass money to spend. Time for some deals!

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=17467173

AlexUA 09-04-2010 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron2k1 (Post 17467161)
Yeah this could turn out in a classic bank run

It's pretty common a bank only has about 20% of the funds actually there...

So why are they lying to us? Let just say: "Sorry guys, we spend 80% of your money to drugs, hookers, and film making". And we'll understand them.

Vjo 09-04-2010 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cam_girls (Post 17467171)
Thanks for that! :thumbsup </SARCASM>

Dude, he sent the same letter and spent 3 seconds prettying it up. FFS

</SARCASM>
on your
</SARCASM>

Just playing along. :)

More importantly, changing sponsors away from epass tonight is kind of a bummer. I guess if the sponsor contacts me or places a notice within stats I change.

If I dont hear anything then it is still up in the air. That is the procedure I am following. I imagine more will email as time goes on. Playing it by ear.

Edit: everyone seems to have ACH now which is way better for us in the US anyhow.


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