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12clicks 11-02-2010 06:18 AM

will today spell the end of the socialist experiment?
 
and the end of the liberal trash wasting our children's money and future?
I sure as hell hope so.:thumbsup

stocktrader23 11-02-2010 06:23 AM

I'm sure Republicans will win overall if that's what you are asking. Then Democrats will win in 2012.

Phoenix 11-02-2010 06:30 AM

yes because the energy we produce here in canada...is now fully owned by a usa company...and today they upped the prices again to sell us back our own energy that our taxes paid to develop

its so awesome

theking 11-02-2010 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17662649)
and the end of the liberal trash wasting our children's money and future?
I sure as hell hope so.:thumbsup

Well if the Republicans become the majority of the House and Senate the President still has veto power...but it is very doubtful that they will become the majority in the Senate.

BTW...it is the Republicans that are the greatest growers of government...spending and increasing the National Debt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

spazlabz 11-02-2010 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17662649)
and the end of the liberal trash wasting our children's money and future?
I sure as hell hope so.:thumbsup

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

good one bro!

12clicks 11-02-2010 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17662682)

BTW...it is the Republicans that are the greatest growers of government...spending and increasing the National Debt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

incorrect, as usual, pathfinder.

obama has already increased the debt in 2 years greater than bush had in 8.
additionally, the debt is grown by congress, not the president.

but thanks for playing.

epitome 11-02-2010 06:56 AM

edit: never mind.

dyna mo 11-02-2010 06:59 AM

obama's already made bipartisan comments such as

"the republicans can ride along, they just have to ride in the back of the bus."


yay.

Black All Through 11-02-2010 07:01 AM

I'm sure it will be a grand slam for the Republicans. However 2 years to repair the mess left by George Bush are nothing.
A lot of promises that should have already been fulfilled will have the Democrats lose these elections. They went way beyond their possibilities in telling the American people what they wanted to hear "change"
I voted Democrat in 08 this time around I went independent.

theking 11-02-2010 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17662755)
incorrect, as usual, pathfinder.

obama has already increased the debt in 2 years greater than bush had in 8.
additionally, the debt is grown by congress, not the president.

but thanks for playing.

I am aware that Congress controls the purse strings...I am also aware that the President has veto power...and the Senate cannot usually override the veto. In addition you did not study the charts...thus it is you that is wrong...as usual...sport.

stocktrader23 11-02-2010 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17662755)
incorrect, as usual, pathfinder.

obama has already increased the debt in 2 years greater than bush had in 8.
additionally, the debt is grown by congress, not the president.

but thanks for playing.

Nothing you wrote here disproves his claim.

sextoyking 11-02-2010 07:05 AM

Today will probably be a blood bath for my party.

We earned some of that and the rest of course because of jobs, jobs, jobs.

Remember Pres. George HW Bush - no new taxes - Clinton won after he broke that promise.

We promised below 8% unemployment - we failed... good thing is we will keep the Senate, so we will either work together or total gridlock...

Now the repubs have to try and govern a bit - let's see how that works out.....

Brujah 11-02-2010 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17662755)
incorrect, as usual, pathfinder.

obama has already increased the debt in 2 years greater than bush had in 8.
additionally, the debt is grown by congress, not the president.

but thanks for playing.

Which is it? Obama did it or congress did it?

Besides, Vice-President Dick Cheney said "Reagan proved deficits don't matter." He knows more than all of us put together.

12clicks 11-02-2010 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17662772)
I am aware that Congress controls the purse strings...I am also aware that the President has veto power...and the Senate cannot usually override the veto. In addition you did not study the charts...thus it is you that is wrong...as usual...sport.

pathfinder, the charts show that the greatest reduction of national debt was when control of congress was turned over to republicans.
the chart also leaves off obama's debt which is the largest increase by any president ever.

now run along and come back as "the queen" and explain how you found yourself dead at your computer, mid post on GFY. :1orglaugh

12clicks 11-02-2010 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17662786)
Which is it? Obama did it or congress did it?

Besides, Vice-President Dick Cheney said "Reagan proved deficits don't matter." He knows more than all of us put together.

ahhh, brujah, always needing it dumbed down.
the democratic congress and senate passed what obama wanted.

cleared up now?

during the reagan years, he slashed taxes under the misconception that it was a way to curb democratic spending. it wasn't. they just kept on spending what they didn't have.
shockingly, when newt gingrich took control of the house and forced down spending, it started the best economic cycle of our life times.

not sure why the left acts so dumb. I don't see it as a viable strategy.
at the end of the daty, you end up, uh..........looking dumb.

theking 11-02-2010 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17662789)
pathfinder, the charts show that the greatest reduction of national debt was when control of congress was turned over to republicans.
the chart also leaves off obama's debt which is the largest increase by any president ever.

now run along and come back as "the queen" and explain how you found yourself dead at your computer, mid post on GFY. :1orglaugh

President Reagan: 32.5% of GDP to 53.1%

President Bush Senior: Took it to 66.1% of GDP

President Clinton: Reduced it to 56.4% of GDP

President Bush Jr: Took it to 83.4% of GDP

President Obama: Came into office with it being 83.4% of GDP

It is yet to be known what it percentage of the GDP will be when he leaves office.

It does not make alot of difference who is in the majority in the House and Senate as the President can veto any spending bill that he chooses to and usually the Senate cannot get enough votes to override a veto. Thus ultimately the buck stops with the President...not the Congress.

As you can see under Republican administrations the debt went from 32.5% of GDP to 83.4% of GDP...and no President Obama has not reached this almost 52% in increase to GDP.

CaptainHowdy 11-02-2010 07:24 AM

That's not socialism...

cwd 11-02-2010 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17662649)
and the end of the liberal trash wasting our children's money and future?
I sure as hell hope so.:thumbsup

yeah, lets get some real talent in there that can do the job. I can't wait for Paul, Angle, O'Donnell, Miller and the rest!

Wizzo 11-02-2010 07:29 AM

Hopefully the GOP will gain enough power to gridlock the government, because that when it seems to work best when neither party has enough power to spend, spend, spend... and yes they are both equally guilty!

Brujah 11-02-2010 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cwd (Post 17662854)
yeah, lets get some real talent in there that can do the job. I can't wait for Paul, Angle, O'Donnell, Miller and the rest!

Halloween was the other day. You don't have to scare us like that.

_Richard_ 11-02-2010 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 17662680)
yes because the energy we produce here in canada...is now fully owned by a usa company...and today they upped the prices again to sell us back our own energy that our taxes paid to develop

its so awesome

haha what?

Sly 11-02-2010 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 17662861)
Hopefully the GOP will gain enough power to gridlock the government, because that when it seems to work best when neither party has enough power to spend, spend, spend... and yes they are both equally guilty!

I've never thought that having the House, Senate, and Presidency held by the same party was a good thing.

_Richard_ 11-02-2010 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17662766)
obama's already made bipartisan comments such as

"the republicans can ride along, they just have to ride in the back of the bus."


yay.

funny, i thought republicans were saying that in a weird example of racism still embedded in your country

i believe the analogy was 'car'

Phoenix 11-02-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17662864)
haha what?

oh yeah...politicians in ontario are crooks..they have been selling shit off here for about 8 years now

seeandsee 11-02-2010 07:33 AM

50% chance for somebody to win :)

12clicks 11-02-2010 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17662825)
President Reagan: 32.5% of GDP to 53.1%

President Bush Senior: Took it to 66.1% of GDP

President Clinton: Reduced it to 56.4% of GDP

President Bush Jr: Took it to 83.4% of GDP

President Obama: Came into office with it being 83.4% of GDP

It is yet to be known what it percentage of the GDP will be when he leaves office.

It does not make alot of difference who is in the majority in the House and Senate as the President can veto any spending bill that he chooses to and usually the Senate cannot get enough votes to override a veto. Thus ultimately the buck stops with the President...not the Congress.

As you can see under Republican administrations the debt went from 32.5% of GDP to 83.4% of GDP...and no President Obama has not reached this almost 52% in increase to GDP.

dear troll, presidents do not veto budgets except in extreme cases because congress and the senate are supposedly the will of the people.

post your idiot half facts all day.

Clinton didn't reduce shit, the republican congress did.
at an increase of $3trillion, obama has in two years, surpassed every other president who's had 4 or 8 years.

you're idiocy truly knows no bounds.

theking 11-02-2010 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17662870)
I've never thought that having the House, Senate, and Presidency held by the same party was a good thing.

Historically speaking...the majority of Americans seem to agree.

porn-mobile 11-02-2010 07:35 AM

If the Brits can so suddenly control their spending, so can we. I just don't want to have to hear about Tea Partiers any longer.

12clicks 11-02-2010 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17662778)
Nothing you wrote here disproves his claim.

wow, I'm always amazed by guys who can type with your limited intelligence.

Sly 11-02-2010 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17662887)
Historically speaking...the majority of Americans seem to agree.

"Historically speaking" it may work out that way after elections, but I don't believe that most Americans agree at all. "Most" people want "their party" to have the power of all three.

_Richard_ 11-02-2010 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 17662872)
oh yeah...politicians in ontario are crooks..they have been selling shit off here for about 8 years now

same thing here oddly enough

a couple, ah, criminalish situations in the sell off of bc rail etc

12clicks 11-02-2010 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17662766)
obama's already made bipartisan comments such as

"the republicans can ride along, they just have to ride in the back of the bus."


yay.

and lets not forget the bringing us all together comment "We?re going to punish our enemies and we?re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us"


enemies? he won't call Al Quada "enemies" but people who want to stop illegal immigration he will.

there's a priority list we can all be proud of.

theking 11-02-2010 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17662886)
dear troll, presidents do not veto budgets except in extreme cases because congress and the senate are supposedly the will of the people.

post your idiot half facts all day.

Clinton didn't reduce shit, the republican congress did.
at an increase of $3trillion, obama has in two years, surpassed every other president who's had 4 or 8 years.

you're idiocy truly knows no bounds.

Everything that I posted is fact and undisputed fact...period. But have it your way...sport. I refuse to have intercourse with ass wipes.

12clicks 11-02-2010 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17662915)
I refuse to have intercourse with ass wipes.

so then your wife is dead?

raven1083 11-02-2010 07:43 AM

this thread delivers

theking 11-02-2010 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17662903)
"Historically speaking" it may work out that way after elections, but I don't believe that most Americans agree at all. "Most" people want "their party" to have the power of all three.

It would not have worked out that way if the majority of Americans wanted one party to have power...now would it have?

sextoyking 11-02-2010 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17662914)
and lets not forget the bringing us all together comment "We?re going to punish our enemies and we?re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us"


enemies? he won't call Al Quada "enemies" but people who want to stop illegal immigration he will.

there's a priority list we can all be proud of.


Our president did correct his words to be "opponents"

You know he is a lover of our country just as most of us are.. His views are center left mostly and yours are center right or right...

As far as clinton - he gets credit as does the repub congress of his time... 22 million new jobs - a great economy, etc.

Sly 11-02-2010 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17662938)
It would not have worked out that way if the majority of Americans wanted one party to have power...now would it have?

Uh... think about that one.

How many people are running around right now saying "we need another power in party!" very few. What are people saying? "We need someone else in power!"

People vote for "someone else", not for "another party." "Someone else" just happens to be "another party."

raven1083 11-02-2010 07:53 AM

this thread makes sense

12clicks 11-02-2010 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sextoyking (Post 17662945)
Our president did correct his words to be "opponents"

you don't SAY "enemies" unless you MEAN enemies

Quote:

Originally Posted by sextoyking (Post 17662945)
You know he is a lover of our country just as most of us are.. His views are center left mostly and yours are center right or right...

his views are NOT center left. he's extreme left.
no centrist talks about and attempts to practice wealth redistribution



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Originally Posted by sextoyking (Post 17662945)
As far as clinton - he gets credit as does the repub congress of his time... 22 million new jobs - a great economy, etc.

if you remember, clinton came out with a leftist agenda, got slapped down in the mid terms, and with newt holding the scruff of his neck, forced him onto the path to prosperity


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