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08-14-2015, 06:55 AM | #1 | |
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Low-fat diets 'better than cutting carbs' for weight loss
Low-fat diets 'better than cutting carbs' for weight loss
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So I can can go back on the 'all beer' diet?..
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Seems dumb, unless that fat is not meat fat, cut sugar & shity food and you will loose weight, I eat tons of red meat and have nothing but gains and lost inches from it. Gotta eat those greens too.
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Thats why there are so many fat people, they think fat is all bad.
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that study is designed to protect the corn and wheat industries that feed the masses. I don't blame them because we don't have anywhere near the resources to feed the planet without those. nope, not enough. makes up 15% compared to diet.
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I saw that on the Today show this morning. The right fats are excellent for fat loss -- like Olive Oil, nuts and other monounsaturated kinds. You just have to watch the intake because of the high caloric content of fats for such a small volume of food. Dietary fat does not turn into fat -- carbs do.
I'm pretty sure I lowered my cholesterol by having a tablespoon of olive oil and a handful of nuts every day (plus some MCT oil) for the last few months. I've also got my waist down to 32 inches and I'm on my way looking like Tyler Durden -- so that study seems like bullshit to me. All macros in balance, with carbs on the low end except on lifting days.
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Nope ? You just agree'd with me LOL
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You can have straight protein shakes all day every day and if you drink too much you'll get fat.
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If I'm not on my strict diet game I follow the simple rules of "fuel your body for what you are using it for at the time" If I'm sitting at my desk all day I'll keep the carbs down around 150-200G range. If I'm training, bump em up around 320-350G depending on what day it is. Same thing if I go out to eat...its all a matter of the right choices and substitutions if you decide to cheat.
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After trying many diets, I can say Calories in vs Calories out will always prevail over what type
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Guaranteed you are burning off more muscle with a calories in vs calorie out diet vs a properly balanced diet.
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going 6 day vegan is working for me 11KG lost so far
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It's also important to keep in mind that all carb's are not created equal. Complex carb's, such as whole grains, typically come with dietary fiber which is indigestible while also binding with other stuff in your gut to make it likewise inaccessible, which means that although you are ingesting x amount of calories, not all of those calories will be available to you.
Add to that, that in order to store the excess calories from carbs a percentage of those calories is consumed in the process. I want to say that total conversion from carb intake to body fat storage consumes roughly 25% of those calories, but don't hold me to that. Fat, on the other hand is closer to 1:1.
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so sick & tired of studies, & polls, & the media in general. you can literally hear whatever you want to hear. pot causes cancer. pot cures cancer. its fucking ridiculous.
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You can't loose 11KG in 6 days going vegan... I advice you to see a doctor because if you really lost 11KG in 6 days there's something really wrong...
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you can lose that in a day depending what you eat in the pre meals. I lost 10 this past weekend from playing in a ball tournament. almost all water weight obviously.
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That's something else... I assume he's talking about body weight because he says that veganism is due to that weight loss... Not losing water because of running a ball-game...
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Another thing I noticed about these people who think they're getting in shape is that they have a target weight number. Your number should be whatever the scale says when you look like an MMA fighter in the mirror.
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Millions of years of evolution to create a nearly perfect organism, which is home to a 3.3 lb organ which is by far the most sophisticate organization of matter in the universe and you think that science is going to somehow shed new light on weight loss? Eat a balanced diet (as your body is design to do). Eat fewer calories than you burn. That is all.
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I mean eating vegan for 6 days monday to saterday then i eat what i want on sunday ive been going it for a few months
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Absolutely not!!! Because there was nothing else to assume regarding to the words he wrote. My logic and assumption was correct.... See... that explains a lot... Make perfectly sense now...
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from what I read, they called low carb 140 grams of carbs a day. Thats not low carb.
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I lost 70 pounds a couple summers ago switching to diet pop and water/tea. I rarely drink regular pop now and I feel a lot better, too.
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50 is on the low side.
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This is ignorance...the best diet for you is the one you will stick to...
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At least we don't say "What flavor Coke do you want?" like some parts do
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I'm not big on conspiracy, but the gist of this new "finding" probably has a lot to do with the food industry keeping zombies addicted to their low-fat high sugar garbage food. Anyone who has done a little of the their own research and education on nutrition knows that the low fat paradigm is bullshit -- and some of us have empirical evidence that fat is not your enemy when it comes to getting fit..
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Any diet that advises cutting out any of the food groups is a diet that I wouldn't even contemplate. I've read so much rubbish recently where even eating an apple or a pear is frowned on and as for daring to eat a banana - forget it! And of course don't eat potatoes or bread or even carrots, blah, blah, blah, or you'll die an early death. Of course, every single time, there's a book for sale for someone to peddle all this nonsense ... and make themselves rich in the process. I'll continue to eat a varied nutritious diet with occasional treats, I enjoy food but also know the meaning of moderation.
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The weight loss industry is such a scam, why hasn't anyone found something that works and is always changing yet you see healthy and fit people everywhere? There's no secret unless you have money..
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I was on the keto diet for a few months last year, lost a good deal of weight, and it really struck me that just about every food made by a company in a factory is just a mix of wheat, sugar and salt for the most part. It's just the cheapest shit they can put in a box and sell basically.
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But honestly with keto nobody is saying that eating those things will make you die early, or that they're not healthy, nothing like that.. It's just that bananas for example don't fit with the overall diet and so you don't eat them. There's obviously nothing wrong with eating a banana. And what I love about keto is A> it works B> I love all the food I can eat C> there's nothing to buy. No bullshit being peddled. Simply eat a ton of fat, don't eat carbs at all, never feel hungry and the weight just melts off by itself. |
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Let's look at the study referenced in the article: (http://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/...131(15)00350-2)
Highlights •19 adults with obesity were confined to a metabolic ward for two 2-week periods •Cutting carbohydrates increased net fat oxidation, but cutting fat by equal calories had no effect •Cutting fat resulted in more body fat loss as measured by metabolic balance •Mathematical model simulations predicted small long-term differences in body fat Only 19 people! That's hardly a study. And the simulation predict SMALL long term differences. |