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WDjay · 10-06-2006, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 5pm

no link either smarty pants.

intentional, the sig is a joke to Missie.

Magnus · 10-06-2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by WDjay

If want to quote me, feel free. But quote the whole post.

NEW SIG FOR THE DAY< NO REF CODE!!!!! WHAT A DEAL.

Jay we need Duncan here.. he would make things right!! LOL

WDjay · 10-06-2006, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnus

Jay we need Duncan here.. he would make things right!! LOL

VIVA DUNCAN, VIVA DUNCAN

Daruma · 10-06-2006, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Daruma

key word = currently
key word = customers

what % in the past?
what % was the maximum?
do you guys push installs on 'left over' traffic so that would not qualify as 'customer'?

if the % is really sooooooo loooooowwwww

then why not just make a policy against it - anounce it and look like heros listening to your customer base?

be realistic about it - the overwelming majority of people in the business are against it

any response?

Daruma · 10-06-2006, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by WDjay

VIVA DUNCAN, VIVA DUNCAN

nice image

Magnus · 10-06-2006, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by WDjay

VIVA DUNCAN, VIVA DUNCAN

Duncan quote:
"That strip club waitress is not getting me the free drinks I deserve"

Young · 10-06-2006, 09:28 AM

LMAO@ "Legal Installs" .... 99% of the people who install them usually don't know or are too stupid to know what the fuck they're doing. The TOS and install Agreements are usually tucked away in some obscure place.

wedouglas · 10-06-2006, 09:53 AM

I have never heard of anyone wanting adware. You are just fucking people without them knowing. Most people who get adware installed, don't even know it.

I'd say this definately tarnished someones reputation.

Sosa · 10-06-2006, 09:55 AM

classic gfy thread

Huggles · 10-06-2006, 09:56 AM

WDjay does installs?

Another person added to the shit list.

detoxed · 10-06-2006, 10:17 AM

Wow the response from companies involved in this thread has been nothing more than unprofessional after reading 1 page.

Phil · 10-06-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

Yep we sell traffic to companies that do legitimate LEGAL installs.

If you don't like that, then take your business somewhere else..

DH

Nigga please..Legal installs??!! ha-ha.. like 800solutions?

Daruma · 10-06-2006, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Daruma

key word = currently
key word = customers

what % in the past?
what % was the maximum?
do you guys push installs on 'left over' traffic so that would not qualify as 'customer'?

if the % is really sooooooo loooooowwwww

then why not just make a policy against it - anounce it and look like heros listening to your customer base?

be realistic about it - the overwelming majority of people in the business are against it

answers...

StuartD · 10-06-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by wedouglas

I have never heard of anyone wanting adware.

Really? Never wanted ICQ? How about Quicktime? Real Audio?

Huggles · 10-06-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

Really? Never wanted ICQ? How about Quicktime? Real Audio?

I want to punch the people at Real Audio.

StuartD · 10-06-2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggles

I want to punch the people at Real Audio.

Yeah, you want to punch a lot of people. Somehow it doesn't surprise me.

BobG · 10-06-2006, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnus

Duncan quote:
"That strip club waitress is not getting me the free drinks I deserve"

Hahaha. Thats funny, that actually is an exact quote.

xxxice · 10-06-2006, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Worldsex

Dh,
I don't think you can put everything under the 'it is legal, so I don't have a problem with it' umbrella. Sometimes the laws hasn't adjusted to the new situations yet.

Molesting a horse is legal in Holland, because the laws haven't been adjusted yet.....so if you could make money with it, would you do it? and what if it was big money?
You can always make money on something, and if there is enough money to be made, why focus then on something which is obviously so bad for our (and any other) industry. Because others are doing it otherwise? a lame excuse if you ask me.

Why don't you just say: Guys, you're right. I will stop with any form of install, I will focus on selling my traffic to others instead of their questionable stuff and probably make the same amount of money with most likely a bit more work..but fuck it! I make enough already.

But well, for some reason I don't see that happening, I would love to, but well.......one can dream right?!

I still love you Mark and I have a lot of respect for you what you have accomplished in just a few years, I just don't agree with you on this one as you know ;) And this post doesn't only apply to you, but also to many others.
Pierre

wedouglas · 10-06-2006, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

Really? Never wanted ICQ? How about Quicktime? Real Audio?

1. ICQ is a piece of shit. I use GAIM.
2. I can't even think of the last time I used Real Player. I don't even think it is installed.
3. I have never seen any advertisements when I play quicktime file. NEVER.

Also, I said "wanted."

Are you telling me you want your programs with ads in them?

GTS Mark · 10-06-2006, 01:10 PM

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Will76, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for Earth has just begun! Temporarily anozinizing our adware distribution abilities will NOT stop us from keeping adware forever trapped in your pitiful computers. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save sales from adware will fail! Hail Zango!!!

-- DH and Robbie Rye, servants of the dark lord Zango

DH

P.S. If no one gets this, it's the response that Trey and Matt from Southpark had for Tom Cruise LOL!

5pm · 10-06-2006, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Will76, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for Earth has just begun! Temporarily anozinizing our adware distribution abilities will NOT stop us from keeping adware forever trapped in your pitiful computers. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save sales from adware will fail! Hail Zango!!!

-- DH and Robbie Rye, servants of the dark lord Zango

DH

P.S. If no one gets this, it's the response that Trey and Matt from Southpark had for Tom Cruise LOL!

It's refreshing to see such professionalism.

wedouglas · 10-06-2006, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Will76, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for Earth has just begun! Temporarily anozinizing our adware distribution abilities will NOT stop us from keeping adware forever trapped in your pitiful computers. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save sales from adware will fail! Hail Zango!!!

-- DH and Robbie Rye, servants of the dark lord Zango

DH

P.S. If no one gets this, it's the response that Trey and Matt from Southpark had for Tom Cruise LOL!

It's would be funnier if you didn't leave that P.S.

GTS Mark · 10-06-2006, 01:25 PM

Anyways guys, Wiredguy is here and we are off to the cottage for the weekend. Sorry if I don't respond until then

Have a nice weekend everyone

DH

StuartD · 10-06-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wedouglas

1. ICQ is a piece of shit. I use GAIM.
2. I can't even think of the last time I used Real Player. I don't even think it is installed.
3. I have never seen any advertisements when I play quicktime file. NEVER.

Also, I said "wanted."

Are you telling me you want your programs with ads in them?

Believe it or not, yes... there are a couple of people out there who have downloaded ICQ. One or two have downloaded Real Audio as well.
I even use Eudora at home. It has an ad in the bottom corner.

I know it'll come to you as a shock, but not everyone wants to pay for the programs they download. Sometimes, they'd rather it just work and be free.

Therefore, the companies combat this buy selling advertising within the program itself to compensate for lack of revenue while handing it out for free.

It's called being in business.

bauhaus · 10-06-2006, 01:56 PM

[QUOTE=DrinkingHARDEST]Hey Will76, why don't you tell me your sponsors, how much money you're making, where you live, where your office is located (if not out of your mom's basement LOL). I'm also going to need your last 3 years tax returns, "

Dude...this tax returns IRS stuff.....this takes me back in time... to a place long ago. A shame I only get to reply to this.... 8 pages later lol.

xlogger · 10-06-2006, 01:59 PM

Check it out, i will tell you guy how installs work.

First a company comes in all legit. People use them, no problem.

They can change the code at any time. Meaning they are legit in the begining and months later they can change refs do bad stuff ext.

I learned about this recently and am removing all install bs from my site, eventhough they are legit.

StuartD · 10-06-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by xlogger

Check it out, i will tell you guy how installs work.

First a company comes in all legit. People use them, no problem.

They can change the code at any time. Meaning they are legit in the begining and months later they can change refs do bad stuff ext.

I learned about this resently and am removing all install bs from my site, eventhough they are legit.

Is that how ALL installs work? So when I installed Glyph from Gamehouse Games, I basically screwed any chance of ever seeing a proper ref code again?

xlogger · 10-06-2006, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

Is that how ALL installs work? So when I installed Glyph from Gamehouse Games, I basically screwed any chance of ever seeing a proper ref code again?

Im not saying all, obviously. If they wanted to change the code later on they can. Lets say at first you get one popup a day, months later they can change that to five, thats what im saying. It is possible, no?

Just like a TOS, you can change it at anytime.

BlackCrayon · 10-06-2006, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WDjay

PREDICTION>>>>>>> Ok, here is how this thing will play out. A couple years from know all the companies everyone is complaining about will STOP doing the things that are making you all so upset. YOU WILL CLAIM VICTORY, shouting from the rooftops. It was your voice that made the change. Truth is that it was the market that changed and you had nothing to do with it. Here is what I can tell you about GTS and other large successful companies. While you complain, they are working on the next generation of products and services. Things nobody is complaining about because they are things nobody has see yet. Then you will complain about those. Its a cycle. There are only a small % of people who inovate. They get rich without breaking laws. They think ahead and use thier time wisley by thinking outside the box. And of course thier will always be the large % who dont. MARK< MAGNUS,,,,,fuck the haters. You'll be building and growing long after they are gone.

"they get rich without breaking laws" -yes because they rely on the fact that laws are very slow to catch up with technology and by the time they have they have moved on to the next future illegal thing. and the truth is laws will force markets to change, eventually. people will always do this, its a good way to make money but just call it like it is.

Major (Tom) · 10-06-2006, 03:13 PM

DH, im gonna hit you up on icq.
i will tell you how i feel man to man.

duke

georgeyw · 10-06-2006, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

Another great comment from ICQ

"what i think is nuts is this will76 guy who's bills himself as an affiliate extraordinaire is just finding out about this now? welcome to 3 years ago..."

DH

Did this person on icq hear a gigantic "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHHHH" when he read will's initial post? Whoever the genius is that said that has completely missed the point of will's post

Phoenix · 10-06-2006, 03:37 PM

viva la GTS!!!

Phoenix · 10-06-2006, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

Anyways guys, Wiredguy is here and we are off to the cottage for the weekend. Sorry if I don't respond until then

Have a nice weekend everyone

DH

fucker..lol

will76 · 10-06-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KrisKross

That's irrelevant. And check your ICQ.

I don't recall any ICQ messages from you can you send again ?

will76 · 10-06-2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

I'm not missing the point. He accused P2Pads of something... without proof. That's a bannable offense on GFY.
.

o'really ? If you can find where i accused them of something with out proof then please do link to it so i can be banned.

Do you agree or not agree if the person who owns the company says something, it is ok to take it as proof ?

RRRED · 10-06-2006, 05:49 PM

Alrighty then.... off to the eye doctor now. I think this thread gave me cataracts.

xxxice · 10-07-2006, 12:01 AM

Bump

sacX · 10-07-2006, 02:48 AM

Problem with adware installs, is that the third party e.g. P2pads who distribute can never know for sure there's no affiliate code hacking, or other malicious code. Sure you can do a bit of testing, but there's always ways the coder can coneal these things. Basically, you have to take the vendors words on it.

Some people can take the principled position and just say "no, there's plenty of business, installs are something I can AFFORD to stay away from" or you can look at the big $$ the installer will offer.

will76 · 10-07-2006, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sacX

Problem with adware installs, is that the third party e.g. P2pads who distribute can never know for sure there's no affiliate code hacking, or other malicious code. Sure you can do a bit of testing, but there's always ways the coder can coneal these things. Basically, you have to take the vendors words on it.

Some people can take the principled position and just say "no, there's plenty of business, installs are something I can AFFORD to stay away from" or you can look at the big $$ the installer will offer.

yeap and taking the word of an installer company is very credible

Corona · 10-07-2006, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggles

WDjay does installs?

Another person added to the shit list.

You remember the Webmaster Direct threads where they were accused of ransomeware?

That would be the WD in WDjay.

darksoul · 10-07-2006, 05:38 AM

its funny how some low moral shitstaints call themselfs innovators, lol.

Corona · 10-07-2006, 10:19 AM

You can say that again

will76 · 10-07-2006, 05:28 PM

i second that....

Missie · 10-07-2006, 05:35 PM

Will, I just sent you an ICQ.

Missie

StuartD · 10-07-2006, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by darksoul

its funny how some low moral shitstaints call themselfs innovators, lol.

Bill Gates stole all of his ideas and innovated how we use computers today.

But that's neither here nor there, is it?

will76 · 10-07-2006, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

Bill Gates stole all of his ideas and innovated how we use computers today.

But that's neither here nor there, is it?

neither here or there.

Stuart if you didn't work for p2pads, honeslty would you be responding in these threads the way you have been doing. Stuart, are you an affiliate of any company and make affiliate sales. Just curious what you do.

StuartD · 10-07-2006, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

neither here or there.

Stuart if you didn't work for p2pads, honeslty would you be responding in these threads the way you have been doing. Stuart, are you an affiliate of any company and make affiliate sales. Just curious what you do.

Does it matter? It really doesn't matter who I work for or what I do.
I can respect that you hate what these spyware programs and companies do.

But your hate towards them is quite unfocused and just generally off the wall. You go after anyone and everyone who doesn't profess their undying devotion to the anti-spyware crusade even if they are themselves a victim. What the hell does your thread to Lars prove? Neither cams.com nor sexsearch.com are at fault and yet you name them with screenshots and blast them as if they are creating the spyware themselves.

Your entire approach is simply wrong.

If a program doesn't post here, and they don't announce that they do not support spyware, you just automatically assume that they do. And if a program does support adware, you automatically assume that they support spyware as well.

Not only that, but you automatically assume that if the word spyware has ever crossed someone's lips, that they must be writing little zango mods right now.

You really need to step back, analyze just what it is that's going on and find a new approach. If you hate that one specific spyware company so badly, use your billions to shut them down. Don't make thread after thread after thread about how some popup appeared after you purposed infected yourself with spyware.

If you need to hate someone for supporting installs, then hate me all you want. Because I happen to think that ICQ's install is awesome. Especially where it pops up stuff as soon as you start it, and how it puts little ads into the message windows. That adware rocks!

StuartD · 10-07-2006, 08:01 PM

By the way, good job getting people to post about how they don't support spyware.
I'm sure someone who does support spyware would never ever post saying that they don't. I mean, they're thieves and cheaters and scammers. Not liars. Right?

jayeff · 10-07-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

I happen to think that ICQ's install is awesome. Especially where it pops up stuff as soon as you start it, and how it puts little ads into the message windows. That adware rocks!

I'm wondering how you can believe it is likely to be productive to keep attempting to convince people who use ICQ every day that the (small) banners displayed on ICQ and similar adware equate to the practises of scumware.

Your other misdirections are only slightly less transparent: if people can visit the board to promote their latest competition or whatever, why should it be too much to expect them to spend a minute expressing their opposition to scumware? This is an issue which has no middle ground and as Edmund Burke said "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing".

This particularly applies to some of the sponsors which have been named in this thread. What has been demonstrated here doesn't make it clear who is guilty of something, who may have been a victim or have been taken advantage of by an unscrupulous affiliate. Speaking for myself, I kept an open mind when the threads were started, but I can think of only one reason why there is still no input from several of them. Face it, "they are not responding, so they must be innocent" is not going to be a very common reaction to their silence.

will76 · 10-07-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

Neither cams.com nor sexsearch.com are at fault and yet you name them with screenshots and blast them as if they are creating the spyware themselves.

!

wait one more....

10-06-2006, 09:28 AM	#307
Young Bland for life Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,468	LMAO@ "Legal Installs" .... 99% of the people who install them usually don't know or are too stupid to know what the fuck they're doing. The TOS and install Agreements are usually tucked away in some obscure place. __________________ ★★★

10-06-2006, 09:56 AM	#310
Huggles GFY'S #1 retard Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Kelowna Posts: 10,700	WDjay does installs? Another person added to the shit list. __________________ I make my money from people jerking off

10-06-2006, 01:56 PM	#325
bauhaus Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 773	[QUOTE=DrinkingHARDEST]Hey Will76, why don't you tell me your sponsors, how much money you're making, where you live, where your office is located (if not out of your mom's basement LOL). I'm also going to need your last 3 years tax returns, " Dude...this tax returns IRS stuff.....this takes me back in time... to a place long ago. A shame I only get to reply to this.... 8 pages later lol. __________________ Insane, Color and Instant Sensation REalize the potential of dynamic coded features all in real time Vivid Php Code This is the reality of Outsoursouring SKype HolyBauhaus Deep, Deep in the Tropical Dry Rainforest.

10-06-2006, 01:59 PM	#326
xlogger Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NY Posts: 9,507	Check it out, i will tell you guy how installs work. First a company comes in all legit. People use them, no problem. They can change the code at any time. Meaning they are legit in the begining and months later they can change refs do bad stuff ext. I learned about this recently and am removing all install bs from my site, eventhough they are legit. __________________ ---------- XLOGGER [REFLECTED] [OH] Last edited by xlogger; 10-06-2006 at 02:01 PM..

10-06-2006, 03:13 PM	#330
Major (Tom) Anti Communist Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 29,857	DH, im gonna hit you up on icq. i will tell you how i feel man to man. duke __________________ My mother said, to get things done You'd better not mess with Major Tom

10-06-2006, 09:53 AM	#308
wedouglas So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 5,921	I have never heard of anyone wanting adware. You are just fucking people without them knowing. Most people who get adware installed, don't even know it. I'd say this definately tarnished someones reputation.

10-06-2006, 09:55 AM	#309
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	classic gfy thread

10-06-2006, 10:17 AM	#311
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	Wow the response from companies involved in this thread has been nothing more than unprofessional after reading 1 page.

10-06-2006, 01:10 PM	#320
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Will76, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for Earth has just begun! Temporarily anozinizing our adware distribution abilities will NOT stop us from keeping adware forever trapped in your pitiful computers. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save sales from adware will fail! Hail Zango!!! -- DH and Robbie Rye, servants of the dark lord Zango DH P.S. If no one gets this, it's the response that Trey and Matt from Southpark had for Tom Cruise LOL!

10-06-2006, 01:25 PM	#323
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Anyways guys, Wiredguy is here and we are off to the cottage for the weekend. Sorry if I don't respond until then Have a nice weekend everyone DH

10-06-2006, 03:37 PM	#332
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,457	viva la GTS!!! __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

10-06-2006, 05:49 PM	#336
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	Alrighty then.... off to the eye doctor now. I think this thread gave me cataracts.

10-07-2006, 12:01 AM	#337
xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	Bump

10-07-2006, 02:48 AM	#338
sacX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,998	Problem with adware installs, is that the third party e.g. P2pads who distribute can never know for sure there's no affiliate code hacking, or other malicious code. Sure you can do a bit of testing, but there's always ways the coder can coneal these things. Basically, you have to take the vendors words on it. Some people can take the principled position and just say "no, there's plenty of business, installs are something I can AFFORD to stay away from" or you can look at the big $$ the installer will offer. __________________ Have Asian Language Traffic?

10-07-2006, 05:38 AM	#341
darksoul Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: /root/ Posts: 4,997	its funny how some low moral shitstaints call themselfs innovators, lol. __________________ 1337 5y54\|)m1n: 157717888 BM-2cUBw4B2fgiYAfjkE7JvWaJMiUXD96n9tN Cambooth

10-07-2006, 10:19 AM	#342
Corona Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Third mall from the sun Posts: 2,185	You can say that again __________________ I was looking for a job, and then I found a job And heaven knows I'm miserable now

10-07-2006, 05:28 PM	#343
will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	i second that.... __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue

10-07-2006, 05:35 PM	#344
Missie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 372	Will, I just sent you an ICQ. Missie __________________ Looking for a clean sponsor that won't steal from you?check them out here!

10-07-2006, 08:01 PM	#348
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	By the way, good job getting people to post about how they don't support spyware. I'm sure someone who does support spyware would never ever post saying that they don't. I mean, they're thieves and cheaters and scammers. Not liars. Right? __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter