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$5 submissions · 02-05-2013, 01:53 PM

I lost 80 pounds just by skipping dinner. It's that simple.

dyna mo · 02-05-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

For the most part I agree with her.

One thing that's pretty undeniable is that by eating many smaller meals you're going to keep your blood sugar level more constant and hopefully avoid large insulin responses. That's probably the most critical part of the equation.

i do have to disagree. 1 meal will spike bs 1 time, multiple meals spike bs multiple times.

it's just as easy dealing with a larger spike as a small spike- a blast of insulin.

bigluv · 02-05-2013, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

i do have to disagree. 1 meal will spike bs 1 time, multiple meals spike bs multiple times.

it's just as easy dealing with a larger spike as a small spike- a blast of insulin.

Blood sugar is toxic. Body response will be different to higher levels vs smaller spikes.

I don't necessarily agree that many meals solves what we're talking about, but you are 100% wrong about this particular point.

Choopa Phil · 02-05-2013, 02:33 PM

I eat 6-8 times a day because one simply can not ingest 5k cals in 2 meals

. Cals in VS cals out, the only way to speed up your metabolism is with a stimulant not with food.

Bryan G · 02-05-2013, 02:37 PM

I might be wrong but I'd say everyone is different. What works for one might not for another. All these diet threads have so many different opinions on what to do. In all honestly I think just exercising and not being a glutton should work fine.

dyna mo · 02-05-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bigluv

Blood sugar is toxic. Body response will be different to higher levels vs smaller spikes.

I don't necessarily agree that many meals solves what we're talking about, but you are 100% wrong about this particular point.

i've been diabetic for 33+ years, injected gallons of insulin and checked my sugars 10s of 1000s of times during that time.

it does not matter how much a healthy person eats, their sugar will NEVER get over 150-ish. you body secretes enough insulin to deal with the amount.

if your blood sugar goes over 150 when you eat, you have diabetes. end of story.

about 30g of food = 50 increase in blood sugar in my experience.

so a spike is a spike is a spike.

WarChild · 02-05-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

i've been diabetic for 33+ years, injected gallons of insulin and checked my sugars 10s of 1000s of times during that time.

it does not matter how much a healthy person eats, their sugar will NEVER get over 150-ish. you body secretes enough insulin to deal with the amount.

if your blood sugar goes over 150 when you eat, you have diabetes. end of story.

about 30g of food = 50 increase in blood sugar in my experience.

so a spike is a spike is a spike.

Right but the higher your blood sugar, the more insulin you will release. If you have a nice steady blood sugar, you're going to have less insulin spikes.

dyna mo · 02-05-2013, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Right but the higher your blood sugar, the more insulin you will release. If you have a nice steady blood sugar, you're going to have less insulin spikes.

but it is more steady with 1 meal v several. 1 meal and you will level out and slowly decline. multi meals will have multiple small increases over the same 24 hours.

ottopottomouse · 02-05-2013, 04:25 PM

move to the north pole will help you lose weight but you never see the Go And Live In An Igloo diet promoted anywhere.

WarChild · 02-05-2013, 04:36 PM

I'm not really interested in arguing on GFY anymore so I'll just cut out at that.

dyna mo · 02-05-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Right but the higher your blood sugar, the more insulin you will release. If you have a nice steady blood sugar, you're going to have less insulin spikes.

i've been thinking about this, i think we are both not using the term insulin spike correctly. a normal increase in insulin in response to a reasonably balanced meal is not a spike. i had forgotten that.

so let's take 2000 cals of a reasonable macro-nutrient split.

that 2000 cals will increase your blood sugar the same, generally speaking, whether you consume it in 1 meal or 10 meals.

an insulin spike is the result of an abnormal ingestion- high carbs or more cals than needed. both of those will result in both a true spike, which must also include a crash, and more insulin secreted.

i think that is how i understand it.

dyna mo · 02-05-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

I'm not really interested in arguing on GFY anymore so I'll just cut out at that.

sorry for any confusion, it seemed to me that we were sorting out a complicated topic.

nevertheless, the thread is to let dieters know they don't have to worry about 6 meals a day to lost weight.

hopefully that makes it easier for someone.

tanlines · 02-06-2013, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN

Just cut out sodas and snack foods. My whole family is over weight besides myself. Only difference is i quit drinking soda and eating chips when i was about 12.

this goes for even the "Zero" sodas and any type of juice. When I first started following a Paleo diet, I still kept up my Coke Zero addiction (2-3 cans/day). My body was definitely transforming with workouts and Paleo but it wasn't until I completely cut out the Coke Zero that the changes - especially around my waist - became very noticeable.

NETbilling · 02-06-2013, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin

Portion size matters, for anyone.

And you look awesome btw!

Katie-LifeSelector · 02-06-2013, 07:51 AM

The Insanity Workout, called insanity for a reason :

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1W-aNTrq_a4

John-ACWM · 02-06-2013, 08:10 AM

Different people, different metabolisms.

charlie g · 02-06-2013, 10:57 AM

I have gained approximately 13 kg in 3 months. How did I do it you ask? I drank approximately 3 2liter bottles of Coke everyday(sometimes more). I completely changed my sleep pattern, sleeping 3-4 hours a day. My sleep would come in 1 hour increments directly following gorging myself with greasy foods. I completely stopped all exercise including sex(no doggy or missionary, just let the girls ride).

It's amazing how quickly I have gotten fleshy layers of fat rolling around my waist. Kinda disgusting actually.

TheSquealer · 02-06-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie g

I have gained approximately 13 kg in 3 months. How did I do it you ask? I drank approximately 3 2liter bottles of Coke everyday(sometimes more). I completely changed my sleep pattern, sleeping 3-4 hours a day. My sleep would come in 1 hour increments directly following gorging myself with greasy foods. I completely stopped all exercise including sex(no doggy or missionary, just let the girls ride).

It's amazing how quickly I have gotten fleshy layers of fat rolling around my waist. Kinda disgusting actually.

That is a fast track plan for insulin resistance (already happening) and adult onset diabetes.. It's impossible to over state how important it is to your health to stop the massive injections of super sugar into your system all day, everyday.

phonesexmistress · 02-06-2013, 11:29 AM

I think its common sense and let's face it, too many people don't have it. Weight loss is a huge $$$ industry. The market the same shit a 100 different ways. Personally I stick to whole organic foods. I don't focus on counting calories or taking funky shit that does nothing.

Elli · 02-06-2013, 01:28 PM

I tried eating more smaller meals, but because I was used to a certain portion size, I just ended up eating too MUCH. It's much easier for me to stick to the main three meals and just occasional snacks.

bronco67 · 02-06-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Katie-LifeSelector

The Insanity Workout, called insanity for a reason :

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1W-aNTrq_a4

That stuff is all great....and I have the Insanity program DVDs.

But if you laid on your back wildly flailing your arms and legs around for 40 minutes a day, your results will be about the same.

dyna mo · 02-06-2013, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli

I tried eating more smaller meals, but because I was used to a certain portion size, I just ended up eating too MUCH. It's much easier for me to stick to the main three meals and just occasional snacks.

I'm glad you mention this. The studies i've read debunking the frequent meals boost metabolism myth also state that eating more meals can be counter-productive for this very reason- lower calorie meals won't necessarily satiate hunger. you still feel hungry, consequently eating more and blowing your diet.

PR_Glen · 02-06-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Some Guy

If you work out hard on a regular basis then eating more actually can speed up your metabolism. I know this first-hand as I used to be pretty big into bodybuilding. Many sumo wrestlers achieve their size by eating one huge meal a day since this effectively slows their metabolism down.

(Everybody's different, however. What works for one person might not work for another. That's what most of these self-proclaimed diet gurus fail to realize.)

myth, eating all day keeps insulin high all day = impossible to burn fat

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Here is a great diet that is proven to work.

Carb Nite Solution

Been on it for one month and lost more than 6 kilos.

fuckin ay.. I have gained and lost weight over the years doing many different things and doing this and carb backloading got me better results than anything. I have complete control of my body since doing these..

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Originally Posted by Jakke PNG

(ex) fat people have a harder time to keep their weight off as people who've been slim forever. An ex-fat guy needs to eat less to maintain the same weight as the person who's been that size "always". There's been quite a few studies into this recently.

How unfair is that?

So a guy who was 400lbs and loses 200lbs spends less calories/day than a guy who's always been 200lbs.

The body thinks the 400lbs is the norm and tries to get back to that. Hooray for the slugginesh of evolution.

i'm fat btw and I don't blame outside sources, like slow metabolism or having nature fight against me. Weight CAN be still lost regardless of these. I just don't have the time/will to dedicate time into losing weight. Maybe after my first heart-attack I'll reconsider.

myth, all bodies are practically the same in composition.. it's peoples eating habits that make the differences. Find different habits.

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Originally Posted by ajrocks

Eating more small meals does work but it isn't because it speeds up your system. Your body can only process and use so much food at a time. Anymore then can be used at the time of digestion is stored. Eat small meals more often and your body will be able to burn those calories more efficiently and store less of it as body fat.

myth.. i eat 85% of my calories in one meal in a day and late.. and I'm lean.. (despite not being before or having a high metabolism)

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

can you offer more of an explanation?
I had thought it was a scientific fact, that when you eat just one meal a day your body will send some of the excess to fat storage. So eating more meals in a day will allow you to train your body not to store fat.

depends on what that meal is composed of... if its all carbs then definitely going to store as fat UNLESS that was a day you went heavy on the weights in the gym, that changes things.

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Originally Posted by WarChild

My personal trainer / registered nutrionist who also happens to be an IBBF ranked professional competitor strongly disagrees with you.

your personal trainer/ registered nutritionist / IBBF professional competitor decided not to read the actual science and studies done on this and read what Doctor Oz told him instead.

I know plenty of bodybuilder competitors who are retarded too, did you want me to quote them and give you false info as well? ;)

Dyna mo, Glad to have you back, good post and dead on here! OH, and I don't eat breakfast ;)

kristin · 02-06-2013, 01:55 PM

My suggestion: Rock climbing!

Choopa Phil · 02-06-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

your personal trainer/ registered nutritionist / IBBF professional competitor decided not to read the actual science and studies done on this and read what Doctor Oz told him instead.

I know plenty of bodybuilder competitors who are retarded too, did you want me to quote them and give you false info as well? ;)

Dyna mo, Glad to have you back, good post and dead on here! OH, and I don't eat breakfast ;)

So true, not to mention they all claim to be natural, that XYZ works for this and that meanwhile they tell u what worked for THEM while they are cycling and using every other pharma under the sun.

Joshua G · 02-06-2013, 02:08 PM

shit. only 4pm EST & i already hit my calorie quota.

Choopa Phil · 02-06-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh

shit. only 4pm EST & i already hit my calorie quota.

Eat more veggies! You have to eat exponentially more to get the same amount of cals as if you would from say a grain source, which will also keep you fuller longer

bigluv · 02-06-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

i've been diabetic for 33+ years, injected gallons of insulin and checked my sugars 10s of 1000s of times during that time.

it does not matter how much a healthy person eats, their sugar will NEVER get over 150-ish. you body secretes enough insulin to deal with the amount.

if your blood sugar goes over 150 when you eat, you have diabetes. end of story.

about 30g of food = 50 increase in blood sugar in my experience.

so a spike is a spike is a spike.

so in your experience, were you to cram 3000 calories into one meal, or split it into 6 meals, which would cause you to inject a higher total amount of insulin?

I'm assuming you are the kind of diabetic that doesn't produce any but I really dont know if thats common so if you aren't then my question is moot.

dyna mo · 02-06-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bigluv

so in your experience, were you to cram 3000 calories into one meal, or split it into 6 meals, which would cause you to inject a higher total amount of insulin?

I'm assuming you are the kind of diabetic that doesn't produce any but I really dont know if thats common so if you aren't then my question is moot.

insulin dosages are determined via a sliding scale based PRIMARILY on the # of grams of carbs being ingested, i'm talking strictly based on meals, not dealing with an already elevated blood glucose reading.

so if that 3000 cals had more carbs then yes, i would take more insulin. but again, that would not be an insulin spike if it were a reasonable amount of carbs for me.

also, 3000 cals is ~1000 more cals than i need in 24 hours so for me, this would cause an insulin spike, not simply elevated insulin levels.

Imortyl Pussycat · 02-06-2013, 02:47 PM

i have to admit i bought into that 6 small meal hype. i just got the Jillian Michaels 90 day program and read the booklets that came with it. she says breakfast-lunch-snack-dinner in that order with no grazing at all and to space those evenly. i love her on the biggest loser and i will do what she says and see what happens

Choopa Phil · 02-06-2013, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat

i have to admit i bought into that 6 small meal hype. i just got the Jillian Michaels 90 day program and read the booklets that came with it. she says breakfast-lunch-snack-dinner in that order with no grazing at all and to space those evenly. i love her on the biggest loser and i will do what she says and see what happens

Youll lose weight in those 90 days then go right back to where you were before once you start a normal eating regimen again. Thats how all these "diets" work. A diet should be consistent if you want to look consistent. It should be enjoyable and shouldnt constantly leave you hungry and unfulfilled.

Imortyl Pussycat · 02-06-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

Youll lose weight in those 90 days then go right back to where you were before once you start a normal eating regimen again. Thats how all these "diets" work. A diet should be consistent if you want to look consistent. It should be enjoyable and shouldnt constantly leave you hungry and unfulfilled.

i agree, that's always been my problem. this time i am committed to making a lifestyle change. going back to some of the foods i eat once i get healthy starts the cycle all over and i cant do it anymore. sadly, there is no room for simple carbs or sugar in my world in any amount.

trustedrevenue · 02-06-2013, 03:48 PM

how to lose weight :

calorie intake < calories burned in a day

stop eating 1500 calorie meals from mcdonalds (unless you workout 3 hrs every day) and you'll be fine

Jakke PNG · 02-07-2013, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

myth, all bodies are practically the same in composition.. it's peoples eating habits that make the differences. Find different habits.

Not a myth.
Not about me.

Ooh aaah.. HBO knows it all?
http://theweightofthenation.hbo.com/...-films/Choices

Jakke PNG · 02-07-2013, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by trustedrevenue

how to lose weight :

calorie intake < calories burned in a day

stop eating 1500 calorie meals from mcdonalds (unless you workout 3 hrs every day) and you'll be fine

True. 100%

BUT.. the calorie intake is different from people to people and finding out what that is for YOU is a bit tough.

Body mass alone doesn't work to calculate it (online calculators which tell you your daily limit when sedentary)
The amount of musclemass, the habits of the body (see my previous post about differences in keeping the weight off after losing it & being at weight X to begin with). etc etc.

Katie-LifeSelector · 02-07-2013, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

That stuff is all great....and I have the Insanity program DVDs.

But if you laid on your back wildly flailing your arms and legs around for 40 minutes a day, your results will be about the same.

I must say that this version sounds better to me then what I saw in the video

jigg · 02-07-2013, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

Even the most famous health and fitness gurus claim that eating 6x a day (3 meals + 3 snacks, for instance) boosts metabolism and therefore increases weight loss.
It's 100% bullshit.
I think 99% of people trying to lose weight actually believe in this myth.

Yeah I was watching a JJ Virgin videos on Youtube to see what she's all about and she emphasized cutting the bad shit out, good nutrition and eating every 4-6 hours

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