Paul Markham

Spot on.

As best as an online pre-recorded porn can offer.

A relationship with the model rather than the sex act.

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Barry-xlovecam

No --100% on that.

Virtual prostitution? Well, cybersex for money is a more ''pc'' term ...

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AdultKing

Translation: Smarter people than Paul Markham have explained why he is out of date and out of touch and those people have nothing to offer

Paul Markham

Tough job for anyone trying to identify the "Tinder Generation" and their porn consumption tastes.

I've seen little change in what people consume in the porn world. Apart from the quality of the image and the ability of micro niches to find an avenue to market. What I have seen is the decline of sales.

I see people in porn who need to see data to tell if a scene's any good. Have run out of new ideas and if they have nothing to offer, offer abuse and bullshit to stifle any kind of discussion.

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Not according to some. Do I have an answer, well none of the abusers have a better one. Even with their data-driven ability.

The problem is that data from one's own site only tells them what they are doing. Their data is a record of what they have that works, it can't tell them what they need to change, only add more of the same. Every marketing man knows that and so would THE OWNER OF A BIG BUSINESS.

Should the big guys look at other site's data?

chaturbate.com - Alexa Rank History



Global Rank 287
Rank in United States 249

myfreecams.com - Alexa Rank History



Global Rank 985
Rank in United States 578

Now examine the product.

https://chaturbate.com/teal_targaryen/

MyFreeCams.com - The #1 adult webcam community. Free live webcams and video-chat.

flirt4free.com Site Overview

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/camsoda.com

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/streamate.com

Just a few examples it needs more so maybe someone would like to find which site has the most talking models. Compared with sites that have none, these ones are streets ahead. Do we need to see the traffic of Third World Studios?

We do know that girls are earning more on these sites. Is that the fewer deductions or the more conversions? A pornographer can look at a scene and know which ones are the best, we have to before we pick up a camera and lay down money.

Which sites offer the best "Girlfriend Experience" for the viewer?

An essential part of marketing is testing different ideas of delivering a product. Obviously, people like free. Especially when it's better than what's paid for. So to coninue along those lines nothing will stop the decline.

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No they haven't explained, they just say I'm out of date and touch.

I agree we don't have top site owners or pornographers in here explaining why the "Girlfriend Experience" will sell less. We do have a lot of nobodies just throwing abuse. Few have signatures.

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Global Rank 12,984,133

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Global Rank 979,298
Rank in United States 587,700

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AdultKing

You seem to be very out of date and a number of people have pointed out where you're getting it wrong - but all of their opinions are irrelevant to you because they disagree with you.

Not sure what you're trying to prove there.

BUMP.XXX is a new site - obviously it will have no traffic.

Node.XXX is a new site - same as above.

PornBlogs.XXX main domain is really only visited by adult webmasters, so it will have little traffic. All of the traffic to PornBlogs.XXX is split between all the subdomain blogs on the platform and the top level domains which are pornblogs.xxx, pornblog.xxx, pornblogs.net, blogfap.com, pornblogs.sexy, myblog.xxx, myblog.sexy, pornblogs.sexy.

Considering there are hundreds of blogs each with their own subdomain of those top level domans you wouldn't expect the branded PornBlogs.XXX to have a high Alexa ranking because the only people who really visit that site are people setting up a blog on the platform.

There's been 231055 unique visits to the top level domain PornBlogs.XXX this month.

I think this is just another classic case of where you're demonstrating that you just don't understand how things work.

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I expected more from you than that, really disapointed. Never knew you'd stoop so low.

dig420

What can I offer? Traffic, money, 21 years of success.

Your idea of 'loads' of money is probably quite different than mine, and if you have no skills and you know you have no skills, why the fuck don't you ever shut up?

Also, webmasters do a lot more than putting up links and free porn, and again, if you have to ask what more there is to it, then maybe you should be asking questions and trying to learn instead of trying to teach.

dig420

Because they're not trying to sell you anything and don't consider the $7.00/mth they might make off a signature worth the effort. You had to be told that?

Barry-xlovecam

If you spend $500 to $1000 a month like we do you can buy data (publicly compiled) on website comparative; age, location, income range, bounce rates, page views, time on site, organic and ad traffic, brand type in-traffic, domain link backs, and more -- the trick is YOU PAY for it like we do ;=).

I know the ratios for all my competitors by; ads, link ins, direct and social media. When you have looked at enough stats like I have -- you are able to trend and interpret the data. You think I got to to where I am because I don't have a fuckin' clue -- have you taken up smoking medical marijuana?

These very limited free stats you get Paul are very deceptive. They prove out nothing -- pure supposition.

A site can have gigantic traffic from 18-24 y.o. logging in from school and the site has shit for sales -- but LOTS of traffic -- oh WOW!

Bottom line, you can only guess at the profitability of a private company unless you have hacked (or had access to) their records or have some sort of other insider information. I try not to count the money in the next guys pocket because a lot of the time you will find you are very wrong.

Comparing public stock companies and trending them is a lot easier and can be very profitable too. A friend of mine plays the E-mini S&P 500 Futures for 2 to 5 minutes a day for 6 figures margin money. Some days he makes over $10K in a few minutes or he cuts and runs when things don't go his way. That is understanding the underlying trends

When I grow up that is what I want to do too

Paul Markham

Just was shocked at how such a big man would make a pathetic bunch of sites.

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Yes you can offer all that by putting up a link to what you have.

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OK put these stats up so we can see them.

Saying Chaturbate makes less money Xlovecam, is irrelevant. Millions are consuming on Chaturbate because they don't like Xlovecam. This has a huge effect on Xlovecam's income, also on the income of affiliates and the models. This makes your post nonsense.

So with all your data, tell us who gets the most traffic, what is different about the product that attracts people and why other sites are losing traffic.

What you do know from experience is the Xlovecam style of site can rarely earn enough to attract Western Models, models on Xlovecam have to work for different sites because one site can't provide enough, 90% of the girls have to share 20% of the revenue, after everyone else has taken a slice, the turnover in those girls is horrible. Number one reason is they don't earn enough. Number two is you can't or won't filter out idiot abusers.

With all your kickass data Xlovecam should be looking at replicating what others are doing. Because.

https://gfy.com/21059827-post1.html

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Social media is booming, a new generation is addicted to viewing other people's lives like never before. Some Camsites have adapted away from the Third World Studio model. Those who are stuck with it can't pay Western Models enough to lure them in.

Sites that churn out anonymous porn similar to all the free videos on Tubes are finding it harder to convert. It seems every week we hear of more companies folding or not paying. Most definitely it's getting harder to sell pre-recorded anonymous porn. Because its main buying benefit, jerking off, is now free.

Cam Sites with girls talking to viewers are getting so much traffic, the Thirls World Studios have to be losing it. Because the constant growth of porn customers stopped 4-5 years ago. There's little more traffic growth inthe West, the new generation are more likely to be freeloaders than buyers. One doesn't need detailed stats to know the porn industry is declining and only those who do it right are going to survive.

Can people sell a model consumers empathise with easier than a model consumers have no clue about?

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The composition of that picture is better than anything I've ever seen from you.

dig420

Because in addition to zero skills as a webmaster, you have no skills as a surfer and can't use a search engine, look at post history or find a profile page? Do you have to be spoonfed every simple step of the way?

Paul Markham

It's similar to a standard pose I had to shoot for magazines. The ironic thing is, it's better than anything you or Manfap ever shot. LOL

You might as well say David Bailey is a better photographer than me.

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I never tried to be a webmaster, paid too little.

As for searching for your sites and proof you amount to anything. I can see from your posts how little you offer on marketing pornography. If I was looking for hate posts, you would be up there with Damian J.

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Dig420's interracial paysites are legit and he knows what he's talking about.

Barry-xlovecam

Taking out of your ass like usual Paul.

You want real data PAY FOR IT like I do.

If you did: you would know it is against the terms of service to make this data public.

I won't tell you where they come from -- you can say I pulled them out of my ass --I could give 2 flying fucks.

- - - - - - - - - - - - Site; Search; Social; Link; Direct

• xlovecam.com 6.44% 0.19% 70.27% 23.10%
  
• chaturbate.com 10.80% 0.99% 7.84% 80.37%
  
• myfreecams.com 7.39% 1.34% 9.99% 81.28%
  
• livejasmin.com 1.62% 0.11% 84.86% 13.41%
  
• jasmin.com 8.12% 0.10% 12.08% 79.70%
  
• bongacams.com 9.58% 0.07% 53.62% 36.73%
  
• streamate.com 7.50% 0.84% 31.28% 60.38%
  
• camplace.com 9.70% 0.00% 68.99% 21.32%

I don't see anything, as a platform, I would want to replicate (as to competitors) on XloveCam. Creating a new cam site is always a possibility. But you really don't get it. Cam models don't need you nor do cam sites. Your ideas are 10 years old just mee-to copycat.

I really am not concerned that the "Great Paul Markham" is hyper-critical of our site and its business model. You are keeping me on the front page every day lately. I may have to paint my face orange soon and wear a dead squirrel on my head

If I wanted to sell in India I would have Indian girls working for rupees that Indian customers could afford -- same as in China. As this would not be a legal business in India or China at the current time so it is a very moot point.

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the who?

Paul Markham

Yes few webmasters ever earned what content producers working for the offline biz earned.



Then why so shy about showing them?

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Barry stop insulting the intelligence of people reading this thread. I'm sure you're not that stupid to not understand 10% of 1,000,000 is more than 99% of 100. Showing % is a joke, an insult or you need to drop the pretence of being a webmaster who understands anything.

No, you didn't pull them out of your ass. you would have added fake total traffic numbers if you did that.

The standard of trolling has dropped recently.

Barry any date on yur $2 million registry site yet?

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dig420

Because he doesn't play step and fetch it for Paul Markham, and if you don't know who I am and can't find out that's just another signal that you should be listening instead of talking. At this point however, I'm pretty sure that we're dealing with some kind of mild disorder on your part, so that's just not going to happen.

Also, you have it exactly ass backwards. Very few content producers made what webmasters make, and you're not one of them. I'm pretty sure I could read an online tutorial, break out my Canon and match your content for quality in a week or two. It would take me years to learn enough to equal Billy Watson, JustDaveXXX or somebody like that, if I could ever do it at all. And you know what? I wouldn't be in content production threads trying to tell them how to do their job better while I was in the learning process. In fact if I were trying to get in that industry I would carry their bags for free and set up equipment just to be on set learning the trade.

dig420

Why of course Paul... knowing the traffic source split of the biggest moneymaking sites in the world is NO USE AT ALL!!

Barry-xlovecam

Yes I told you already.
Contract is signed with ICANN buddy.

See your registrar late fall early winter 2017 to buy a .cam name.

We don't sell direct to the general public as a registry.



If you can't see that social media activity is inconclusive by those percentages you are more dense that I though you were or need new glasses.

Stick to what you are good at (what ever that is) ...

Paul Markham

I never said it was NO USE AT ALL!! It's of use to webmasters.

To pornographers and marketing, the best knowledge is why these big sites get so much traffic. xlovecam can duplicate the sources and still have a lot less traffic and sales. Which is what Barry just proved.

To improve his traffic he NEEDS someone like me to change his product.

You won't show your sites because as you see I can pick the product apart.

Exactly what have you said in this thread that's worth reading by anyone other than yourself?

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Site--------------Search------Social-------Link------------Direct

xlovecam.com---6.44%------0.19%------70.27%--------23.10%-
chaturbate.com--10.80%----0.99%------7.84%----------80.37%
myfreecams.com-7.39%-----1.34%------9.99%----------81.28%
livejasmin.com---1.62%-----0.11%------84.86%---------13.41%
jasmin.com-------8.12%-----0.10%-------12.08%--------79.70%
bongacams.com--9.58%-----0.07%-------53.62%--------36.73%
streamate.com---7.50%-----0.84%-------31.28%--------60.38%
camplace.com----9.70%-----0.00%-------68.99%--------21.32%

The biggest questions these figures ask is why are some of the best sites getting so much direct traffic and the bad sites not?

xlovecam.com 23.1% Direct
Chateurbate and other top sites each around 80% direct.

Are these people who have found something they like and not bothering with other sites? Are some of the lesser sites dependent on links from other sites that never returns.

Agree Social Media is being exploited enough. Is that the medium or the campaigns used on social media?

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Your knowledge of what a pornographer does is amazing. In its naivety.

So you know how to use a camera. What are you taking pictures of, where will she come from, will she turn up, how will you pose her, how will you get her to do what you need, make her look sexy, horny, keep her attention, the setting, make-up clothes, and then produce a product the consumer likes.

I did that every day.

You are in a thread about content, pornography, telling me I know nothing. You have yet to offer one piece of advice on pornography. In fact you're too scared to show your sites.

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dig420

Paul I have domain names that are worth more than you've made in the last decade. More than a couple.

The problem here isn't a failure to communicate. It's not even that you're dumb. It's that you're just too damn dumb to understand that you're dumb.

Paul Markham

The good thing is you re-open the debate of why people who think knowing how to operate a camera is the most important part of producing porn. Other webmasters think it's about having stats telling them where traffic doesn't come from. And their influence on the business.

Vegetarian's make bad butchers. Statistic Jockeys make bad pornographers. Because stats are black and white. Producing porn is about knowing what customers want in the niche one works in, knowing how to produce it by using who a model who doesn't know and sometimes doesn't care how it's done. Getting the lighting/focusing right and using the camera, especially today. Is somethingI could teach you in an hour.

Teaching you how to manage a model, is something that takes a long time to get right. Ask Billy Watson, JustDaveXXX what it takes and what they think of my work. Because you're clueless about porn.

Show us your site and we can see if you can pick good shots to show people. I can look at a picture or video and tell you if it's good or bad ad why it is good or bad. Can you?

I can tell you emphatically image quality has nothing to do with porn. So long as the image can stimulate the imagination. Even a webmaster should know that.

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dig420

scumbag, I just found out you called someone's family because they insulted you on a message board. I feel dirty just talking to you, and I think I'm done.

You're not a content producer, you've never produced anything except filler. You're a dirty old man who wanted to touch young ladies and this was the only way you could do it. Nasty.

AdultKing

What the actual fuck ?

Paul did you really do that ?

Paul Markham

No, I called Damian's boss to tell him of how Damian spends his day trolling and talking about CP and pedo on webmasters forums. I thought it important he knew how an employee was representing his company. Is it wrong to expose a bully and troll?

Dig420 is a liar or was speaking to a liar.

He illustrates beautifully how clueless he is about pornography. If image quality and operating a camera was all that was required, amateur porn, Exgf, Gonzo, Reality, etc. Wouldn't be so popular. His opinion about why I shot porn is stupid, after I moved to Czech Eva took over the shooting, we employed two other shooters. I rarely shot content.

I never had a problem finding girlfriends, does he even know what my wife looks like?

My record of front covers and licensing solo girl sets for $3,000 or more is legendary. It gave me the opportunity to shoot a scene for Manwin for $3,000. And today I'm able to offer for sale a 30 library of content. AdultCentro Market | Seller Page

Yes, the image quality isn't as good as today's digital cameras. Some of the content was shot on transparencies, some on Beta-Cam. But image quality has nothing to do with porn.

Is Dig the new Damian Jennings or Damian coming back from the dead?

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What is porn, what's good porn and bad porn, how does one create good porn?

Only a fool thinks it has much to do with the camera. Anyone that loads his site with content based on image quality is going to lose money.

Defining porn in loose terms is simple. It's a product that stimulates the viewer's brain to have sexual thoughts, imaginations and to empathise with the people and action in the scene. So it must be believable to the consumer.

Defining closer needs to separate niches, styles and consumers demands. But the above still holds firm. The viewer has to see more than flesh in sharp detail and focus. One of the problems today with such great cameras is they reveal every flaw on a girls skin, not good when shooting glamour content. Amatuer never required sharp focus.

Let's use girls getting fucked in automobiles. The consumer is most often imagining he could pick up a girl in his car and fuck her. Pizza delivery man, the viewer is imagining it would be that easy to fuck that girl if he knocked on her door. And it goes right through porn. It's more than a viewer watching moving flesh in a sex act. He'as empathising and dreaming he could be there and doing it.

Creating that is what converts consumers, is more than picking up a camera and takes a lot of skill. Anyone intent on groping girls, will put the girls off and blind the man to the purpose of creating something that makes money.

It's cheaper to hire a hooker than blow money on trying to shoot porn. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows this. Morons don't.

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Anyone remember that guy sexeducation that used to post here? Why does Markham remind me of that guy so strongly?











You really make em earn that paycheck huh Paul? Maybe you could call my grandmother and tell on me, so she could get some help for me. Like you did with Damien. Slimeball.

Paul Markham

This isn't very good porn. Kream Makes The Hotel Smokin' pt 2 - Pornhub.com

The voice on the tape is a man pretending to be a girl. There's even a bit 03.19 which make this obvious. The person dubbing is synchronising when the girl does speak. The girl looks devoid of all emotion. Never seen a girl look so cold when being fucked. It's meat on a slab.

ad more. Look How Big She Goes Pt 2 - Pornhub.com

Which accounts for this Bizarreinsertions.com failure

This is much better, but so dated. Is it from a script written in the 1990s? Because I'm sure I saw it back then.

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Of course, we need the % of where the traffic doesn't come from to pinpoint the data of whether this site is good or not.

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4 scenes out of 3,000. You will have to do a lot better to turn a lie into truth.

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I am going to tell you for the last time --- go do your idea with a cam company and the models that you think would be compatible -- you will get paid what you earn. I won't fund your idea your fucking way because you do not know anything about what you are proposing -- you have no track record in the adult webcam industry or empirical evidence this would work.

Of course the free cam sites have high type in rates -- its free porn where the traffic can shoot off their load for free -- you don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that. Same is true for all the major porn tubes -- that should be common knowledge in this business



By the pictures I see you are an expert^^

The Markham Institute is now open ROFLMFAO

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Paul Markham

Agree 100%. This new breed of site is getting your trafic. Whether or not they buy isn't the point. Clearly seeing the quality of porn the models are making money. The pouint is your style of site is failing to attract even the freeloaders. You have admitted that your style is only attractive to Third World models, the free cam sites have lots of Western girls.

I don;t need to run a camsite to see that. I've enough experience with models toknow the #1 reason they come to porn is to earn money and the #1 they stay is they keep making it. 80% of your girls don't.

Can you train your girls to attract and convert more surfers?
Can you exploit their personalities enough to get quality traffic to their pagere and not the whole site?
Can you increase affiliates earning by doing the 2 above?

If you can't find someone who can or see more traffic migrate to other sites.

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It's elevatedx you dummy. All my sites are currently being redesigned by zuzana, fetishbucks just got converted to nats4, I didn't shoot the bizarre insertions stuff but it's light years better than anything you've ever done and there are no slimy old men pawing the models as a bonus. Slutwives is having the tube section added in the next couple days as well. I don't know why I'm bothering to to tell you all this because you're a waste of time. In fact I have no idea what I hope to accomplish being in this thread at all. You just annoy me I guess. You're fucking annoying. You'd try to tell Leo how to run free sites, manwin how to run a tube, aff and pof how to run a dating site and you would never see any irony in it at all. You're amazing, and I don't mean that as a compliment.

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dig420

He also apparently started calling members of Damian's family, but only because he wanted Damian to get 'help'. He was doing it for his benefit, you know.

AdultKing

My guess is that the reason Paul does this type of thing and the reason he posts here trying to tell everyone he knows how to "fix everything" is that it's the only outlet he has to vent his frustration (at whatever that may be at the time).

He doesn't really have a consistent point of view, does jump around quite a lot in what he says. It's as sad to watch as XXXJay's self destruction.

I don't know that any of us can really understand what it's like to be in that situation unless we were thrust into it ourselves. Paul is quite elderly, so perhaps the best thing is just to humour him, not argue with him and let him rant if it makes himself feel useful.

I'm not going to engage in debate with him anymore, it's pointless, he'll never change - he was the same before he was banned. He's going to stay the same until they carry him out in a box.

All of us could get there eventually, some people just can't handle not being a part of what they used to be a part of, or feel that they have some obligation to help the younger folk. Maybe it's not age, maybe he's just bored or sad. Best thing to do is just be civil to him and understand that he's not in a good place.

dig420

I'm sure you're right. Easier to say than to do, but I'm going to consider it an exercise in willpower.

AdultKing

Likewise

Barry-xlovecam

Here is why I dont really give a fuck:

Millionaire.cam gets 20,000 visitors a day *$100 (Avg) daily spend per visitor = $2,000,000 a day
FreeWanker.cam gets 2,000,000 visitors a day *$0.30 (Avg) daily spend per visitor = $600,000 a day

What site would you rather be running?

Create good traffic and send it to a site were it can wank for free --- what does that pay? I am in this game for the money not the glory.

But do the deed, make the traffic, and collect the money -- I am not stopping you. Show us all how smart you are