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AdultKing · 08-05-2016, 02:03 AM

351 reasons why Paul Markham may have early onset dementia.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Those were posts, you don't understand how GFY works.

Ok so here are my last 4 posts.

02.40am
06.25am
08.37am
17.53pm

See that huge gap between this morning and this evening ?

That's when I did what normal people call work.

FFS Markham, you are really bent out of shape. Is that because Eric deleted my private Twitter account from your reckless post which was way out of line ? If you want to post my Social Media accounts you can post my business ones, there's plenty to choose from. I'd prefer not to expose my Family and Friends on my private accounts to people like you.

dig420 · 08-05-2016, 02:10 AM

Only Paul Markham understands retention.

dig420 · 08-05-2016, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

I'd prefer not to expose my Family and Friends on my private accounts to people like you.

Especially given his habit of contacting people from your personal life when he gets his feewings hurt. Just to 'help' you, of course.

MetaformX · 08-05-2016, 02:19 AM

I see Markham hasn't changed one bit

Paul Markham · 08-05-2016, 02:44 AM

Making the first page a person sees is essential to get them interested, start them absorbing what the site has and keeping them returning.

Chaturbate does this.

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Only a small part of their success. This is proof customers love the site.

Bounce Rate 15.40%

Daily Pageviews per Visitor 13.46 4.00%

Daily Time on Site 18:09 4.00%

It doesn't matter if the 18:09 is about the time it takes to jerk off for free. They're jerking off for free and not paying to jerk off on another site.

How does a site increase customer retention? It has to stay up with the competition or get ahead of it. So offering less than others sites offer, won't cut it. Offering one poor video of a girl sucking a guys dick won't cut it. Making it very erotic and niche will cut it. Offering only one video and showing low res pics destroys the work above. Unless the tour content is the standard of the member's area, there's a risk of CB.

But it's still all standard stuff, won't compete with the Brazzers and Fake Taxi level. And only they can spend the money needed to make the entire site in a high level. Those producing new content can do it. GSPOT, Robbie, Lady Sonia and others are proof it can be done and proof it sells better than them doing the same sort of anonymous videos the rest do.

So instead of spending 15 hours online and posting 16 posts. Spend time doing your webmaster of making sure your affiliate sites are the best that can be. And stop bullshitting about being a CEO.

AdultKing · 08-05-2016, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So instead of spending 15 hours online and posting 16 posts. Spend time doing your webmaster of making sure your affiliate sites are the best that can be. And stop bullshitting about being a CEO.

You are losing it, seriously.

Your attempts to bait me into posting about my mainstream company are not going to work. I do not want that company associated with adult - you can keep trying all you like.

Knowing how keen you are to gather information about people, it would be foolhardy to provide you the opportunity to ring and harass my staff, or my call centre, or 24 hour support lines. What is it about you and your unhealthy desire for other people's information ? You won't answer any questions about your own background, personal investments, income, business activity or so forth, so why would you expect people to provide you with information about their businesses - especially those not related to adult - on a public adult forum ?

Personally I think your tendency to stalk people is rather disturbing, but other people can judge whether that's a harsh assessment or not.

The Porn Nerd · 08-05-2016, 07:33 AM

Paul is so funny! He thinks because I tell the surfer it's me (on The New Adventures of The Porn Nerd - Free Tour - Welcome!) that it's actually ME. Well, I SAID it's me on the Tour so it MUST be me and my little dickie on that site, right? LOL

Paul you are so precious. The Man Who Knows Marketing. LOL

You can disrespect Eros Exotica, Fellucia Blow or any other of my dozens of awesome websites but the fact is this: I created them, I did the work and I reap the financial benefits from such work (as do my business partners and affiliates).

So: I win. YOU are a retired loser who has to put everyone down to feel better about how you spent your life. This makes you a small, sad person.

Carry on (and thanks for all the affiliate signups Paul!).

Barry-xlovecam · 08-05-2016, 08:36 AM

More business advice from a man who failed and couldn't get back up.
Retires in a country with low costs (CZ) and lives off his pensions.

You will be eating cat food and bananas in 10 years.

I am glad I am not you Paul.

JesseQuinn · 08-05-2016, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Retention is King.

Unless a site can convince people it's worth staying on and returning it, it's going to fail to maximise the traffic.

I agree with you, if you're talking about people who actually have any intention of spending. just curious as to how you've determined that Barryxlove and PornNerd are failing at that, beyond alexa I mean which is not in any way an accurate method for determining rebills (paysites) and client spending (cams), let alone actual traffic levels. In cams a visitor can be worth thousands or nothing at all, and alexa has no function for determining rebills. even with accurate traffic stats, there is no one-to-one connection between traffic levels and profits.

in the case of xlove, I work with a few uber-successful cammers who also work xlove. they are not north american but they bank and I can't imagine they'd stay on xl if they didn't bank there as well.

just odd to me that you're insulting the work product of two people who run thriving businesses, in a time of significant industry change, without any tangible evidence to back up your assertions.

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

He thinks because I tell the surfer it's me (on The New Adventures of The Porn Nerd - Free Tour - Welcome!) that it's actually ME. Well, I SAID it's me on the Tour so it MUST be me and my little dickie on that site, right? LOL

the size thing was a spiteful and juvenile comment, for real surprised you even bothered to reply to it

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

You can disrespect Eros Exotica, Fellucia Blow or any other of my dozens of awesome websites but the fact is this: I created them, I did the work and I reap the financial benefits from such work (as do my business partners and affiliates).

this is anecdotal but I love Eros Exotica. have sent a few of my own clients there as well (I tend to watch a LOT of porn with a few of my dudes). It's beautifully shot (love the chiaroscuro) and we like that not every chica isn't a blue-eyed blonde and that the dudes tend to be hot too.

I'd guess that anyone who criticizes the content is either being petty or just doesn't like that style personally.

to each their own, but the personal opinion of one individual has no bearing on your success or the quality of what you have put together.

so weird to me that some peeps invest so much effort in trying to tear others down, just to prove a point.

makes no fucking sense.

Paul Markham · 08-05-2016, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

I agree with you, if you're talking about people who actually have any intention of spending. just curious as to how you've determined that Barryxlove and PornNerd are failing at that, beyond alexa I mean which is not in any way an accurate method for determining rebills (paysites) and client spending (cams), let alone actual traffic levels. In cams a visitor can be worth thousands or nothing at all, and alexa has no function for determining rebills. even with accurate traffic stats, there is no one-to-one connection between traffic levels and profits.

in the case of xlove, I work with a few uber-successful cammers who also work xlove. they are not north american but they bank and I can't imagine they'd stay on xl if they didn't bank there as well.

just odd to me that you're insulting the work product of two people who run thriving businesses, in a time of significant industry change, without any tangible evidence to back up your assertions.

Xlove can be judged as porn from what Barry has said and from the returning visitors. His model of webcams is one that can't compete enough to attract Western Visitors. Porn Nerd can be judged by the quality of content he can afford to buy. Kelly Likes To Give A Blowjob - XVIDEOS.COM it's boring. This isn't amateur content, it's a paid model giving some small dick guy a blowjob for money. That's how pornographers and customers see it.

This shows how good consumers think his content is,

CHANNEL RANKING 638th
Videos 47
Views 9,901
Subscribers 26

The Porn Nerd Fucks Again! - Pornhub.com Skip forward to 9 minutes.

Mature Dick with a Pinkish Pussy - Pornhub.com one very uninspired girl.

As a pornographer who had to invest a lot of money before getting paid I had to know what sold well. This content doesn't sell well.

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the size thing was a spiteful and juvenile comment, for real surprised you even bothered to reply to it

Once he stops with the spite, I will stop. However, I'm looking at it from the consumers POV and they will think this is a small dick loser paying girls to allow the guy to fondle, get a bj and badly fuck them. It's not the porn many customers want to buy.

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this is anecdotal but I love Eros Exotica. have sent a few of my own clients there as well (I tend to watch a LOT of porn with a few of my dudes). It's beautifully shot (love the chiaroscuro) and we like that not every chica isn't a blue-eyed blonde and that the dudes tend to be hot too.

I love that site and know about it. I came second to the producer in an offline awards show. If he could get more of this it would be a very profitable business. Problem is funding the production, what he has got is what leads me to think he's not making a lot od money.

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I'd guess that anyone who criticizes the content is either being petty or just doesn't like that style personally.

I've had 15 years of it and look at what others say about me and my content.

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to each their own, but the personal opinion of one individual has no bearing on your success or the quality of what you have put together.

so weird to me that some peeps invest so much effort in trying to tear others down, just to prove a point.

makes no fucking sense.

I expressed my personal opinion that people whose skills are driving traffic, shouldn't be so powerful in a business where the quality of the product is paramount. The people who see that approach as a threat spend a lot of time telling me I'm wrong and often using spite to do so.

Paul Markham · 08-05-2016, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

You are losing it, seriously.

Your attempts to bait me into posting about my mainstream company are not going to work. I do not want that company associated with adult - you can keep trying all you like.

Knowing how keen you are to gather information about people, it would be foolhardy to provide you the opportunity to ring and harass my staff, or my call centre, or 24 hour support lines. What is it about you and your unhealthy desire for other people's information ? You won't answer any questions about your own background, personal investments, income, business activity or so forth, so why would you expect people to provide you with information about their businesses - especially those not related to adult - on a public adult forum ?

Personally I think your tendency to stalk people is rather disturbing, but other people can judge whether that's a harsh assessment or not.

So you own an offline business and when searching for it. It's nowhere to be found it's easy to find people and their businesses today. Finding out the truth about trolls isn't stalking. But they do hate it.

Back to my ignore list, small time webmasters aren't worth the trouble, especially the ones who use spite.

Paul Markham · 08-05-2016, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

More business advice from a man who failed and couldn't get back up.
Retires in a country with low costs (CZ) and lives off his pensions.

You will be eating cat food and bananas in 10 years.

I am glad I am not you Paul.

Look at all the spite, strange JesseQuinn only thinks it's me.

Paul Markham · 08-05-2016, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Paul is so funny! He thinks because I tell the surfer it's me (on The New Adventures of The Porn Nerd - Free Tour - Welcome!) that it's actually ME. Well, I SAID it's me on the Tour so it MUST be me and my little dickie on that site, right? LOL

Paul you are so precious. The Man Who Knows Marketing. LOL

You can disrespect Eros Exotica, Fellucia Blow or any other of my dozens of awesome websites but the fact is this: I created them, I did the work and I reap the financial benefits from such work (as do my business partners and affiliates).

So: I win. YOU are a retired loser who has to put everyone down to feel better about how you spent your life. This makes you a small, sad person.

Carry on (and thanks for all the affiliate signups Paul!).

Fellucia Blow
Updated Date: 08-apr-2016
Creation Date: 07-apr-2009
Expiration Date: 07-apr-2017

Eros Exotica
Updated Date: 28-jun-2016
Creation Date: 27-jun-2010
Expiration Date: 27-jun-2017

I've said many times that I admire your model of business. But please don't say they're awesome and you have 4K content surfers can't find or a loser paying girls to fondle has created good content. It's not good content and not going to make a lot of money these days. Fellucia Blow - Free Preview - Sensual Erotic Blowjob Videos is a nice site. Looks like a mix of SD and HD from ths sample pictures. No sniping it's inevitable with your business model.

Kesse, see we all throw out the spite.

dig420 · 08-05-2016, 11:46 PM

Only Paul Markham really understands how to operate a cam site.

Only Paul Markham really understands paysite design.

Only Paul Markham really understands how to obtain and please affiliates.

Oh, if we could only all be Paul Markham!! What a beautiful world it would be....

AdultKing · 08-06-2016, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dig420

Only Paul Markham really understands how to operate a cam site.

Only Paul Markham really understands paysite design.

Only Paul Markham really understands how to obtain and please affiliates.

Oh, if we could only all be Paul Markham!! What a beautiful world it would be....

But he doesn't know how to use LinkedIn

dig420 · 08-06-2016, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

But he doesn't know how to use LinkedIn

Nitpicker.

JesseQuinn · 08-06-2016, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Xlove can be judged as porn from what Barry has said and from the returning visitors. His model of webcams is one that can't compete enough to attract Western Visitors.

you have any idea how much euro dudes spend on cams? Yeah north amer is queen but it is completely possible to bank off non-na traffic. see it every day.

in terms of xlove specifically, makes sense that on a euro-based site the models and clients are not US-centric. yet you, an individual who has never worked cams are the authority

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Look at all the spite, strange JesseQuinn only thinks it's me.

nah, there's ugliness all over here. don't understand it, can't bothered to try.

I just thought the dick size comment was a really cheap shot. know dudes care about that, seemed to me like you were trying to score points off a personal attack completely irrelevant to the thread. same with your comments regarding Eros that you've apparently now rescinded.

so yeah, as an independent producer/site owner myself I call bullshit when I see peeps no longer in the industry slagging those who are working and succeeding under current conditions, conditions characterized by massive change, that require the ability to adapt in order to thrive. if this is within your skill set and you've been concealing the secret, please share.

as far as the promo vids you linked, agree with you. they're not something I'd want to watch again. that does not negate the quality of PN's overall opus though. perhaps instead of insulting you could offer some tips on how to make his promo clips more appealing? that bridge is prob burned though due to your hella insulting treatises on work you've never done. Namely running a thriving biz in porn/adult in 2016.

for real, what is in it for you to trash peeps who disagree with you? genuine question, I really don't get it.

my point here: there's a palpable arrogance in your approach; assuming you know better than the peeps who actually do the work currently. if I pulled a Markham I'd pontificate on how big box/network site chicas can bank, even though I haven't streamed on a network in years and really know fuck all about their work aside from what network chicas share with me.

sometimes others, gasp, know more than you or I know. straight up, found out long ago that listening/reading instead of speaking/writing is a valuable skill that translates into dollaz. with the added benefit of not coming across like an asshole talking out of same.

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what he has got is what leads me to think he's not making a lot of money.

gracias for admitting your stance is based on a hunch, drawing conclusions with no concrete facts or evidence to bolster your opinion.

you should try it some time, arriving at conclusions based on observable evidence and legit, concrete stats, and staying quiet when one lacks those assets until one attains them. that, or just not throw shade period? crazy, I know

I have no dog in this fight, just posting cuz I get the sense you have a set opinion and you shape evidence (alexa, lol et al.) to correspond to your pre-existing pov

I respect your accomplishments. have no idea why you can't extend the same respect to others. you can learn a lot from peeps if you don't try to position yourself as an authority.

I'm out, peace and $$$$ y'all

AdultKing · 08-06-2016, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

you have any idea how much euro dudes spend on cams? Yeah north amer is queen but it is completely possible to bank off non-na traffic. see it every day.

in terms of xlove specifically, makes sense that on a euro-based site the models and clients are not US-centric. yet you, an individual who has never worked cams are the authority

nah, there's ugliness all over here. don't understand it, can't bothered to try.

I just thought the dick size comment was a really cheap shot. know dudes care about that, seemed to me like you were trying to score points off a personal attack completely irrelevant to the thread. same with your comments regarding Eros that you've apparently now rescinded.

so yeah, as an independent producer/site owner myself I call bullshit when I see peeps no longer in the industry slagging those who are working and succeeding under current conditions, conditions characterized by massive change, that require the ability to adapt in order to thrive. if this is within your skill set and you've been concealing the secret, please share.

as far as the promo vids you linked, agree with you. they're not something I'd want to watch again. that does not negate the quality of PN's overall opus though. perhaps instead of insulting you could offer some tips on how to make his promo clips more appealing? that bridge is prob burned though due to your hella insulting treatises on work you've never done. Namely running a thriving biz in porn/adult in 2016.

for real, what is in it for you to trash peeps who disagree with you? genuine question, I really don't get it.

my point here: there's a palpable arrogance in your approach; assuming you know better than the peeps who actually do the work currently. if I pulled a Markham I'd pontificate on how big box/network site chicas can bank, even though I haven't streamed on a network in years and really know fuck all about their work aside from what network chicas share with me.

sometimes others, gasp, know more than you or I know. straight up, found out long ago that listening/reading instead of speaking/writing is a valuable skill that translates into dollaz. with the added benefit of not coming across like an asshole talking out of same.

gracias for admitting your stance is based on a hunch, drawing conclusions with no concrete facts or evidence to bolster your opinion.

you should try it some time, arriving at conclusions based on observable evidence and legit, concrete stats, and staying quiet when one lacks those assets until one attains them. that, or just not throw shade period? crazy, I know

I have no dog in this fight, just posting cuz I get the sense you have a set opinion and you shape evidence (alexa, lol et al.) to correspond to your pre-existing pov

I respect your accomplishments. have no idea why you can't extend the same respect to others. you can learn a lot from peeps if you don't try to position yourself as an authority.

I'm out, peace and $$$$ y'all

This is a really good post. It's sums up Paul's approach and attitude very well. It's also well thought out and intelligently written.

However Paul doesn't like intelligent, even handed responses. Especially when they are written by intelligent people. Even more so when they are directed at him by a woman.

Paul is dismissive of intelligence and reason. He's also very sexist.

So I expect we'll see him mansplaining in a response that will probably include shards of disdain heading off into tangents of complete disrespect.

Paul Markham · 08-06-2016, 02:44 AM

The crazy part of this is the company Barry reps for is doing what I propose.

It's looking for models who speak English. https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...light=xlovecam

Because it's too stuck into the French speaking market. XLoveCam

https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...light=xlovecam There are more posts that say the same, good if you speak French. What other Countries have people on high incomes who speak French as the main Language?

Good post there why Alexa rankings are VERY important. I know those girls don't understand how Alaxa works.

XLovecam - Camgirl Models and Webcam Studios Register

* - maximum payout for customers that you bring in Down the page, so teach them to market themselves more effectively. Or are you already doing it? I just think you're trolling or don't know about your site. There are a few links on the site that need updating. Like telling girls how much they get paid and how.

So Barry's governors like the idea of having girls who speak the language of the customer. So having them talk to customers would be a natural progression.

Paul Markham · 08-06-2016, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

you have any idea how much euro dudes spend on cams? Yeah north amer is queen but it is completely possible to bank off non-na traffic. see it every day.

in terms of xlove specifically, makes sense that on a euro-based site the models and clients are not US-centric. yet you, an individual who has never worked cams are the authority

I was comparing the quality of site and models on the different sites. As for people having no idea what other people earn. Tell Barry, Porn Nerd, Adultking, Dig and all the other people who ware convinced about what I earn.

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nah, there's ugliness all over here. don't understand it, can't bothered to try.

I give as good as I get.

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I just thought the dick size comment was a really cheap shot. know dudes care about that, seemed to me like you were trying to score points off a personal attack completely irrelevant to the thread. same with your comments regarding Eros that you've apparently now rescinded.

The comment was about what surfers wanted to jerk off to. Did I take a dig at porn nerd for having a small dick or putting that scene up, which is bad on many levels?

Don't think I ever said Eros was bad, as I siad I knew the producer. I do know that reproducing it is expensive and if PN has shot some recently he should design the site around the new content. Conversions would rocket. So I summise he can't afford it.

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so yeah, as an independent producer/site owner myself I call bullshit when I see peeps no longer in the industry slagging those who are working and succeeding under current conditions, conditions characterized by massive change, that require the ability to adapt in order to thrive. if this is within your skill set and you've been concealing the secret, please share.

That's what this thread is about, the pornographers taking the reigns and producing content the surfers want to buy. Those slagging me back are webmasters, one of them has been trying to change what they do to having more models able to chat in a native language. The next step is speaking to camera, then making some girls into stars.

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as far as the promo vids you linked, agree with you. they're not something I'd want to watch again. that does not negate the quality of PN's overall opus though. perhaps instead of insulting you could offer some tips on how to make his promo clips more appealing? that bridge is prob burned though due to your hella insulting treatises on work you've never done. Namely running a thriving biz in porn/adult in 2016.

If he has better content, why do you think ha doesn't showcase it. I don't think many people go to his sites and sign up based on what he shows surfers. As you say we don't know his income, but it makes sense better content = better conversions and traffic,

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for real, what is in it for you to trash peeps who disagree with you? genuine question, I really don't get it.

What's in it for them?

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my point here: there's a palpable arrogance in your approach; assuming you know better than the peeps who actually do the work currently. if I pulled a Markham I'd pontificate on how big box/network site chicas can bank, even though I haven't streamed on a network in years and really know fuck all about their work aside from what network chicas share with me.

When talking about porn to webmasters, I deserve the arrogance.

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sometimes others, gasp, know more than you or I know. straight up, found out long ago that listening/reading instead of speaking/writing is a valuable skill that translates into dollaz. with the added benefit of not coming across like an asshole talking out of same.

Can be said to the flamers in this thread.

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gracias for admitting your stance is based on a hunch, drawing conclusions with no concrete facts or evidence to bolster your opinion.

Look at who the competors are and what they're doing. As for a hunch, it's more than that. It's based on having to know what porn consumers want and that has hardly cahancged in 50 years.

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I respect your accomplishments. have no idea why you can't extend the same respect to others. you can learn a lot from peeps if you don't try to position yourself as an authority.

Respect is earned not given. some here have earned my dislike. Especially those lying.

Paul Markham · 08-06-2016, 03:17 AM

After 50 years of being a model, selling and producing porn I have a good idea what the majority of customers want. I don't need stats to tell me it's good or bad.

In the 1950s a B/W porn photo was the limit most had.
In the 1960s some had cine film.
In the 1970s some had VCRs
In the 1980s most had VCRs
In the 1990s some had the Internet.
In the 2000s everyone had the Internet.
Now in the 2010s 99.99% has free porn.

Even webmasters know this.

The question for those whose incomes rely on sales is where do we go to next? Getting people to pay for, what's already free and better than the purchased product is coming to an end. Move to Dating, selling goods on Amazon, etc?

We know webcams have maintained a good income because those who want a chat with a live girl won't be jerking off to free porn. They want a relationship with the girl. The stronger the surfer feels that relationship is, the more people she will convert, the more people will spend on her, the more they will want only her.

This has been done on webcams and paysites. Do I need stats to prove it works? No as a pornographer it's somethingI learned decades ago.

Do I need stats to know it earns more for those who adopt this approach than those who don't? No as a pornographer it's somethingI learned decades ago.

The hardest part is creating the product to create the relationship. But not as hard as trying to sell what's given away for free.

AdultKing · 08-06-2016, 04:00 AM

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But not as hard as trying to sell what's given away for free.

For a person who has spent eight pages of this thread telling us what a great salesman he is, this is an incredibly naive and simplistic comment.

In Melbourne we have clean, clear, drinkable tap water, amongst the best tap water in the world. However Coca-Cola Amatil make millions of dollars selling several brands of bottled water to people in Melbourne alone.

Studies have shown that this bottled water is actually often less pure than the water that comes out of a tap. But in a triumph of marketing and packaging versus that which is free, Coca-Cola Amatil charge people more for water per litre than you pay for petrol.

You can take this analogy to the online content market. Pornhub is free, supported by ads, however MindGeek cleverly market PornHub Premium and it makes them money.

MetArt content is everywhere on the web, for free. It's a constant battle by MetArt against the pirates, picture sharing websites and image hosts. Yet the company that owns the brand can spend huge amounts of money churning out fresh, new content weekly.

Markham says he understands selling but misses the crucial point that anything can be packaged and marketed to consumers, despite it being free elsewhere, because consumers place a premium on the perception that they are buying something that is better than the free alternative. It doesn't matter if that perception is satisfied or not, as long as you can keep converting the market to your product and keep up the perception that your product is better.

If you can sell ice to eskimos - in other words if you have great marketing - you can sell porn to a market saturated with free porn. It's all about marketing and elevating consumer expectations to the point that they'll get their credit cards out.

Simple really if you know how to market. Unfortunately Markham seems to have become lost in the past and can't see how using modern, effective and innovative strategies can reap rewards in 2016.

Smart Fred · 08-06-2016, 04:09 AM

I'm pleased to not be a webmaster otherwise I won't have been able to earn $3600 in July selling pay sites memberships.

Barry-xlovecam · 08-06-2016, 06:13 AM

I rep for?
Arrogant Assumptive Asshat

AAA

Paul, you failed in business and you offer me advice?
The only advice you are qualified to offer is how not to fail like you did.

You are a loser. Living a forced retirement. Someone who cannot get back in the game.

Paul knows no humility.

"After 50 years of being a model, " HAHA for what? dart boards?

We are in new uncharted territory here ...

AdultKing · 08-06-2016, 06:38 AM

I'll still stick with the hypothesis that this is a case of early onset dementia.

His rantings and ravings just get more ridiculous by the day.

Barry-xlovecam · 08-06-2016, 06:58 AM

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I'll still stick with the hypothesis that this is a case of early onset dementia.

His rantings and ravings just get more ridiculous by the day.

Well, I hope you are wrong and it is not medical.

AdultKing · 08-06-2016, 07:23 AM

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Well, I hope you are wrong and it is not medical.

Well something is going on. I hope it's not medical either.

Paul has always been offbeat but this thread is a trainwreck.

The Porn Nerd · 08-06-2016, 10:22 AM

Paul I know you have a simple mind so I will lay it out for you as simply as I can. Ready?

The New Adventures of The Porn Nerd - Free Tour - Welcome! was one of the firt sites I created back when I was a 100% amateur. It had MY content I shot myself in my mom's basement. LOL True! But after a few years of success I decided I wanted to take down my (little) penis from the Internet so I bought some 'amateur' content with a fat dude and replaced the content. THAT is what you see now.

But The Porn Nerd (the website) is not something I promote all that much. Instead I promote the top 20 websites in my 80+ Porn Nerd Network. You could easily go there and see all my sites and look at the top 4 rows and see which sites are quality. The rest? Bonus sites (helps with rebills and brings in the odd sale).

The issue with Eros IS money - but not because I cannot afford it. It's because the producers do not want to spend $100,000+ to create new films since the DVD market has shrunk. The revenue from the website is massive BUT it is split between the producers and myself so it takes much longer to recoup the initial cost. But could I still afford to do it? YES - BUT I would not hire any film crew but the original producer. And they are not interested. So there you go.

Anyway have fun convincing everyone I do not make sales.

LovinNothin · 08-06-2016, 07:19 PM

This thread is a huge waste of time and the OP has so much free time because he runs adults sites that are meaningless.

Try this on for size, one more time

PORN = FREE.

It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that out.

The only sites making money are live interaction, cam sites and dating sites.

That's all there is to it.

The OP is attempting to re invent the wheel.

The PORN market is over. It has come and gone. The BUBBLE HAS POPPED.

STOP TRYING TO BLOW THE BUBBLE BACK UP AGAIN BECAUSE IT HAS ALREADY POPPED.

IT'S DONE. FINISHED. OVER. IT IS A BUSINESS THAT HAS COME TO A CLOSE, LIKE MANY BUSINESSES IN THE MARKET. NOTHING LASTS FOREVER.

GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON.

GO LEARN SOMETHING NEW AND STOP WASTING YOUR TIME.

Paul Markham · 08-06-2016, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smart Fred

I'm pleased to not be a webmaster otherwise I won't have been able to earn $3600 in July selling pay sites memberships.

Would you like to be earning more?

That's what this thread's about. What I'm suggesting is people who have nothing to do with creating the product. Get a larger say in how it's produced. Look at all the great sites and see what a great product does to sales.

Paul Markham · 08-06-2016, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I rep for?
Arrogant Assumptive Asshat

AAA

Paul, you failed in business and you offer me advice?
The only advice you are qualified to offer is how not to fail like you did.

You are a loser. Living a forced retirement. Someone who cannot get back in the game.

Paul knows no humility.

"After 50 years of being a model, " HAHA for what? dart boards?

We are in new uncharted territory here ...

So much spite from a person whose company is trying to adopt a better model. The webcam models had two complaints. Xlovecam is best for girls who speak French, so has a narrow market and doesn't pay very well. Thier words not mine.

Paul Markham · 08-06-2016, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Paul I know you have a simple mind so I will lay it out for you as simply as I can. Ready?

The New Adventures of The Porn Nerd - Free Tour - Welcome! was one of the firt sites I created back when I was a 100% amateur. It had MY content I shot myself in my mom's basement. LOL True! But after a few years of success I decided I wanted to take down my (little) penis from the Internet so I bought some 'amateur' content with a fat dude and replaced the content. THAT is what you see now.

Great so buy more Custom Content from producers who charge $5,000 to $10,000 per scene and raise the conversions ratio.

Quote:

But The Porn Nerd (the website) is not something I promote all that much. Instead I promote the top 20 websites in my 80+ Porn Nerd Network. You could easily go there and see all my sites and look at the top 4 rows and see which sites are quality. The rest? Bonus sites (helps with rebills and brings in the odd sale).

OK so buy more Custom Content from producers who charge $5,000 to $10,000 per scene and raise the conversions ratio. Will look for those top 20 sites. Or can you just give us a link. Personally I would update the site with the best you have rather than have you flagship site looking so bad.

Quote:

The issue with Eros IS money - but not because I cannot afford it. It's because the producers do not want to spend $100,000+ to create new films since the DVD market has shrunk. The revenue from the website is massive BUT it is split between the producers and myself so it takes much longer to recoup the initial cost. But could I still afford to do it? YES - BUT I would not hire any film crew but the original producer. And they are not interested. So there you go.

It won't cost $100,000 to create new scenes around that theme. You might fool webmasters but not a pornographer.

Quote:

Anyway have fun convincing everyone I do not make sales.

At no time did I say you make no sales. Just not enough to produce more exclusive content in 4k that's modern. Still looking for it.

Paul Markham · 08-06-2016, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LovinNothin

This thread is a huge waste of time and the OP has so much free time because he runs adults sites that are meaningless.

Try this on for size, one more time

PORN = FREE.

It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that out.

The only sites making money are live interaction, cam sites and dating sites.

That's all there is to it.

The OP is attempting to re invent the wheel.

The PORN market is over. It has come and gone. The BUBBLE HAS POPPED.

STOP TRYING TO BLOW THE BUBBLE BACK UP AGAIN BECAUSE IT HAS ALREADY POPPED.

IT'S DONE. FINISHED. OVER. IT IS A BUSINESS THAT HAS COME TO A CLOSE, LIKE MANY BUSINESSES IN THE MARKET. NOTHING LASTS FOREVER.

GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON.

GO LEARN SOMETHING NEW AND STOP WASTING YOUR TIME.

Not completely over, some still make nice money by selling traffic, some big webcam sites are rising. Other than that you're pretty correct. The problem for many of the spiteful here is they can't adapt to a large market that doesn't want free, can't see how having a better product to promote their webmaster income will rise. Just Luddites refusing to change. I thought it ironic that xlovecam had actually tried to change. Looking for girls who can communicate directly with a bigger market.

Yet can't see that's what I'm proposing. Not as funny as admitting he can't teach the models himself to communicate and promote themselves with customers.

Konda · 08-07-2016, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LovinNothin

PORN = FREE.

The only sites making money are live interaction, cam sites and dating sites.

That's all there is to it.

[COLOR="Red"][SIZE="5"]The PORN market is over. It has come and gone. The BUBBLE HAS POPPED.

Funny how out of touch with reality people here are. The online porn market is BIGGER than ever. Companies like MG are having record months (and yes this includes record paysite sales).
Billions of dollars are being made. The only difference between then and now is that all the money goes to a 'few' smart people that know how to operate real businesses and not to some guy in his bedroom that puts up a couple of galleries every day.
Another thing that changed is ratios, but there is also 100x more traffic available, so you can still make the same amount (or more) sales. You just have to know what you are doing.
Also if you know what traffic to buy you can still easily get 1:XXX conversions (on paysites, from tube traffic).

Smart Fred · 08-07-2016, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda

Funny how out of touch with reality people here are. The online porn market is BIGGER than ever. Companies like MG are having record months (and yes this includes record paysite sales).
Billions of dollars are being made. The only difference between then and now is that all the money goes to a 'few' smart people that know how to operate real businesses and not to some guy in his bedroom that puts up a couple of galleries every day.
Another thing that changed is ratios, but there is also 100x more traffic available, so you can still make the same amount (or more) sales. You just have to know what you are doing.
Also if you know what traffic to buy you can still easily get 1:XXX conversions (on paysites, from tube traffic).

Yep, unfortunately.
When the tubes rised and got all the traffic, I wasn't able to adapt and go back to a classic job. Last year, I've started building new sites in a different way cause I'm bored with my classic job. According to my earnings rise from 9 months, it seems I've finally adapted but I don't run any tubes, don't sell traffic and don't use ad networks on my new sites.
But I agree with Konda, the adult business is bigger than ever but harder than ever for the random guy in his bedroom.

LovinNothin · 08-07-2016, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda

Funny how out of touch with reality people here are. The online porn market is BIGGER than ever. Companies like MG are having record months (and yes this includes record paysite sales).
Billions of dollars are being made. The only difference between then and now is that all the money goes to a 'few' smart people that know how to operate real businesses and not to some guy in his bedroom that puts up a couple of galleries every day.
Another thing that changed is ratios, but there is also 100x more traffic available, so you can still make the same amount (or more) sales. You just have to know what you are doing.
Also if you know what traffic to buy you can still easily get 1:XXX conversions (on paysites, from tube traffic).

Billions of dollars are being made?

YOU are clueless. It's a dying business model. Every single Millennial has grown up with free porn. So with each passing year, every new generation will be accustomed to 'not buying porn' because that is the norm.

If you really think I'm full of shit, walk into any bar, or any bus stop or any place in your area, and ask any random guy under 30, "hey, when is the last time you purchased a membership in an adult site?" 10 out of 10 guys will laugh and say never.

Nobody is buying porn. Yes, web cams and dating sites are still getting paid because it's live human interaction, but not porn sites.

Every single type of porn you can think of can be seen FOR FREEEEEEE.

Go to Bing or Google and you can see shit you only dreamed of. The biggest tube sites have more porn than a man can see his whole life time and you really think the newer generations of people are "ALL OF A SUDDEN" GOING TO START PAYING FOR IT?

And those companies claiming "record months" are all so full of shit! They are sinking businesses trying anything to stay alive. There isn't one adult company thriving. They are all sinking. Salaries have been slashed, distributors put on hold, large film budgets cut, it's a slow spiral of a sinking business. Sure, there will be a small handful making films here and there, with profits 1/10 of what they used to be with a staff of 3 people running the whole company, but overall, it's a dying business.

Ironically it's the internet that shot the industry to new heights, and then killed it off. There is nothing that can be done about it. It's simple evolution of a business model.

If you think online porn sales are still profitable, then you also believe that you can sell Snuggies and make a profit.

PORN = FREE

ATTEMPTING TO SELL PORN = STUPIDITY

Barry-xlovecam · 08-07-2016, 07:19 AM

Please don't apply to be a model on XloveCam.

Now you want to tell me what our models make and don't make -- based on what?

Another astute conclusion from questionable data that Paul gets for free on the Internet and ascertains conclusions he pulls out of his ass.

You only lasted in this business when it was not competitive. When a market segment becomes competitive the first casualties are the ones living off the low hanging fruit -- that was your content business' segment. Your photographic technique may have been good but you totally suck at relating to people, other that posing a model who you pay to follow your directions.

99% of cam models would tell you to PVT/PV or "pay me or fuck off-old man"

You do not have the credentials nor reputation to tell anyone jack-shit about the adult webcam business and your assertions, and your lack of any humility in presenting them, just proves this.

We pay a market rate to models 50% to 70%.
We have a narrow market perhaps but I inherited that in 2010 and have no intention of alienating that market segment.
One size fits all means one size will not fit many.
We have been in the French market since 1996 first as a France licensed telcom as an Audiotext provider to the adult market. Twenty years without the leadership of Paul Markham. Fucking amazing how did we do it? LMAO.

Models complain on those boards all of the time -- many complain about the freemium websites you think are so great because you get hardcore for free -- many models do not like that -- giving away the good stuff for tokens that are worth 1/10 of a Dollar.

I don't want to compete with a MFC or Chaturbate business model -- they already have that segment of the market.
We have an established cam site that does millions a month in revenue -- and amazingly it does so without any Magic Paul Markham Stuff

Start your own camsite or ally yourself with one.
You can make all of the money that your illusions tell you is there. No Problemo -- I welcome the competition.

The Porn Nerd · 08-07-2016, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Please don't apply to be a model on XloveCam.

Now you want to tell me what our models make and don't make -- based on what?

Another astute conclusion from questionable data that Paul gets for free on the Internet and ascertains conclusions he pulls out of his ass.

You only lasted in this business when it was not competitive. When a market segment becomes competitive the first casualties are the ones living off the low hanging fruit -- that was your content business' segment. Your photographic technique may have been good but you totally suck at relating to people, other that posing a model who you pay to follow your directions.

99% of cam models would tell you to PVT/PV or "pay me or fuck off-old man"

You do not have the credentials nor reputation to tell anyone jack-shit about the adult webcam business and your assertions, and your lack of any humility in presenting them, just proves this.

We pay a market rate to models 50% to 70%.
We have a narrow market perhaps but I inherited that in 2010 and have no intention of alienating that market segment.
One size fits all means one size will not fit many.
We have been in the French market since 1996 first as a France licensed telcom as an Audiotext provider to the adult market. Twenty years without the leadership of Paul Markham. Fucking amazing how did we do it? LMAO.

Models complain on those boards all of the time -- many complain about the freemium websites you think are so great because you get hardcore for free -- many models do not like that -- giving away the good stuff for tokens that are worth 1/10 of a Dollar.

I don't want to compete with a MFC or Chaturbate business model -- they already have that segment of the market.
We have an established cam site that does millions a month in revenue -- and amazingly it does so without any Magic Paul Markham Stuff

Start your own camsite or ally yourself with one.
You can make all of the money that your illusions tell you is there. No Problemo -- I welcome the competition.

Paul is not interested in accomplishing anything but arguing with people and passing the time.

Paul has knowledge about how to photograph a naked body in the porn context. That's it. He was a failed Webmaster, a failed Affiliate Program owner, a failed marketer and a failed salesman. But that's ok, no big deal. He had a good career as a shooter and that should be enough for anyone. Sadly, it's not.

Instead Paul would rather take shots at successful people, telling them (and the world) they are NOT successful. Then he proceeds to break down any flaw as "proof" of why his target is not successful. It really is laughable and, in the end, really sad.

You do not need to prove a damn thing to Mr. Paul Markham. Nor do I. People have been telling me for YEARS my content and websites are shit. LOL When I look back on how I started (knowing zero about the web) it's a fucking miracle I am still here and growing. Hard work actually but you get the point.

If I listened to Haters like Markham I would never do jack shit. And yet I make a healthy six figure income working for myself. I am a HAPPY motherfucker and you should be, too. We are living the Dream while Paul Markham is living in the past.

AdultKing · 08-07-2016, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Magic Paul Markham Stuff

Sorry that's a trademark, Paul's trademarks include:

Paul Markham Cash?

Paul Markham Teens?

Magic Paul Markham Stuff?

Magic Links?

The Paul Markham Experience?

Did I Ever Tell You About The Time...?

I'm sure there are others. The greatest pornographer that ever lived likely has many

Smart Fred · 08-07-2016, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LovinNothin

If you think online porn sales are still profitable, then you also believe that you can sell Snuggies and make a profit.

PORN = FREE

ATTEMPTING TO SELL PORN = STUPIDITY

I'm the most happy stupid guy on the planet!

But I should speak like you in order to get less concurrent and so more sales.

I've never thought about it before, thanks for the idea.

Paul Markham · 08-07-2016, 09:38 AM

Thank you guys

Replies-----Views
--389-------3,566

---1----------96

Could not have done this on my own.

Barry-xlovecam · 08-07-2016, 10:21 AM

If that is how you measure your accomplishments in life .... whatever

I got a few new affiliates and a couple interesting business offers ... So, I made some bank -- that is how I measure success -- how much is coming into the bank -- GFY pissing contests are just diversions.

AdultKing · 08-07-2016, 11:42 AM

The beginning of this thread as it should have been written.

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...pher-time.html

Paul Markham · 08-07-2016, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda

Funny how out of touch with reality people here are. The online porn market is BIGGER than ever. Companies like MG are having record months (and yes this includes record paysite sales).
Billions of dollars are being made. The only difference between then and now is that all the money goes to a 'few' smart people that know how to operate real businesses and not to some guy in his bedroom that puts up a couple of galleries every day.
Another thing that changed is ratios, but there is also 100x more traffic available, so you can still make the same amount (or more) sales. You just have to know what you are doing.
Also if you know what traffic to buy you can still easily get 1:XXX conversions (on paysites, from tube traffic).

Not convinced it's bigger than ever, we can only guess as no one shows audited accounts including GG. But there's still money to be made, even in buying traffic. The key isn;t just the right traffic, It's have something customers are ready to pay for. Which requires pornographers at the helm of product, like MG, Met-Art, etc. They didn't create great porn by luck or money. Most of my haters here haven't adapted. Won't or can't?

AdultKing · 08-07-2016, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Paul Markham · 08-07-2016, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smart Fred

Yep, unfortunately.
When the tubes rised and got all the traffic, I wasn't able to adapt and go back to a classic job. Last year, I've started building new sites in a different way cause I'm bored with my classic job. According to my earnings rise from 9 months, it seems I've finally adapted but I don't run any tubes, don't sell traffic and don't use ad networks on my new sites.
But I agree with Konda, the adult business is bigger than ever but harder than ever for the random guy in his bedroom.

Adapting to the new demands of surfers is the only way to stay profitable in a business that's changing as fast as online porn.

arock10 · 08-07-2016, 03:30 PM

After reading through all of this I have come to one conclusion

Paul, u mad

nikki99 · 08-07-2016, 04:34 PM

put paul to the hall

Paul Markham · 08-07-2016, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

If that is how you measure your accomplishments in life .... whatever

I got a few new affiliates and a couple interesting business offers ... So, I made some bank -- that is how I measure success -- how much is coming into the bank -- GFY pissing contests are just diversions.

I measure my accomplishments in life on a scale that doesn't include work. And on the quality of life, I'm pretty high up the scale.

Jel · 08-08-2016, 05:00 AM

This is *almost* as funny as the magic joins thread... still pretty outstanding though

Off to get advice from Roseanne Barr on healthy eating, I believe she is pushing the 'john candy heart care' method

08-05-2016, 02:19 AM	#354
MetaformX Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,704	I see Markham hasn't changed one bit __________________

08-05-2016, 07:33 AM	#357
The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,557	Paul is so funny! He thinks because I tell the surfer it's me (on The New Adventures of The Porn Nerd - Free Tour - Welcome!) that it's actually ME. Well, I SAID it's me on the Tour so it MUST be me and my little dickie on that site, right? LOL Paul you are so precious. The Man Who Knows Marketing. LOL You can disrespect Eros Exotica, Fellucia Blow or any other of my dozens of awesome websites but the fact is this: I created them, I did the work and I reap the financial benefits from such work (as do my business partners and affiliates). So: I win. YOU are a retired loser who has to put everyone down to feel better about how you spent your life. This makes you a small, sad person. Carry on (and thanks for all the affiliate signups Paul!). __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Now on Teams: peabodymedia

08-06-2016, 02:44 AM	#369
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	The crazy part of this is the company Barry reps for is doing what I propose. It's looking for models who speak English. https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...light=xlovecam Because it's too stuck into the French speaking market. XLoveCam https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...light=xlovecam There are more posts that say the same, good if you speak French. What other Countries have people on high incomes who speak French as the main Language? Good post there why Alexa rankings are VERY important. I know those girls don't understand how Alaxa works. XLovecam - Camgirl Models and Webcam Studios Register * - maximum payout for customers that you bring in Down the page, so teach them to market themselves more effectively. Or are you already doing it? I just think you're trolling or don't know about your site. There are a few links on the site that need updating. Like telling girls how much they get paid and how. So Barry's governors like the idea of having girls who speak the language of the customer. So having them talk to customers would be a natural progression. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

08-06-2016, 03:17 AM	#371
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	After 50 years of being a model, selling and producing porn I have a good idea what the majority of customers want. I don't need stats to tell me it's good or bad. In the 1950s a B/W porn photo was the limit most had. In the 1960s some had cine film. In the 1970s some had VCRs In the 1980s most had VCRs In the 1990s some had the Internet. In the 2000s everyone had the Internet. Now in the 2010s 99.99% has free porn. Even webmasters know this. The question for those whose incomes rely on sales is where do we go to next? Getting people to pay for, what's already free and better than the purchased product is coming to an end. Move to Dating, selling goods on Amazon, etc? We know webcams have maintained a good income because those who want a chat with a live girl won't be jerking off to free porn. They want a relationship with the girl. The stronger the surfer feels that relationship is, the more people she will convert, the more people will spend on her, the more they will want only her. This has been done on webcams and paysites. Do I need stats to prove it works? No as a pornographer it's somethingI learned decades ago. Do I need stats to know it earns more for those who adopt this approach than those who don't? No as a pornographer it's somethingI learned decades ago. The hardest part is creating the product to create the relationship. But not as hard as trying to sell what's given away for free. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

08-06-2016, 04:09 AM	#373
Smart Fred Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: France Posts: 308	I'm pleased to not be a webmaster otherwise I won't have been able to earn $3600 in July selling pay sites memberships. __________________ Stop doing what you like and start doing what brings you money!

08-05-2016, 02:10 AM	#352
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	Only Paul Markham understands retention.

08-05-2016, 08:36 AM	#358
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	More business advice from a man who failed and couldn't get back up. Retires in a country with low costs (CZ) and lives off his pensions. You will be eating cat food and bananas in 10 years. I am glad I am not you Paul.

08-05-2016, 11:46 PM	#364
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	Only Paul Markham really understands how to operate a cam site. Only Paul Markham really understands paysite design. Only Paul Markham really understands how to obtain and please affiliates. Oh, if we could only all be Paul Markham!! What a beautiful world it would be....

08-06-2016, 06:13 AM	#374
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	I rep for? Arrogant Assumptive Asshat AAA Paul, you failed in business and you offer me advice? The only advice you are qualified to offer is how not to fail like you did. You are a loser. Living a forced retirement. Someone who cannot get back in the game. Paul knows no humility. "After 50 years of being a model, " HAHA for what? dart boards? We are in new uncharted territory here ...

08-06-2016, 06:38 AM	#375
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,601	I'll still stick with the hypothesis that this is a case of early onset dementia. His rantings and ravings just get more ridiculous by the day.

08-06-2016, 10:22 AM	#378
The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,557	Paul I know you have a simple mind so I will lay it out for you as simply as I can. Ready? The New Adventures of The Porn Nerd - Free Tour - Welcome! was one of the firt sites I created back when I was a 100% amateur. It had MY content I shot myself in my mom's basement. LOL True! But after a few years of success I decided I wanted to take down my (little) penis from the Internet so I bought some 'amateur' content with a fat dude and replaced the content. THAT is what you see now. But The Porn Nerd (the website) is not something I promote all that much. Instead I promote the top 20 websites in my 80+ Porn Nerd Network. You could easily go there and see all my sites and look at the top 4 rows and see which sites are quality. The rest? Bonus sites (helps with rebills and brings in the odd sale). The issue with Eros IS money - but not because I cannot afford it. It's because the producers do not want to spend $100,000+ to create new films since the DVD market has shrunk. The revenue from the website is massive BUT it is split between the producers and myself so it takes much longer to recoup the initial cost. But could I still afford to do it? YES - BUT I would not hire any film crew but the original producer. And they are not interested. So there you go. Anyway have fun convincing everyone I do not make sales. __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Now on Teams: peabodymedia

08-06-2016, 07:19 PM	#379
LovinNothin So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 565	This thread is a huge waste of time and the OP has so much free time because he runs adults sites that are meaningless. Try this on for size, one more time PORN = FREE. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that out. The only sites making money are live interaction, cam sites and dating sites. That's all there is to it. The OP is attempting to re invent the wheel. The PORN market is over. It has come and gone. The BUBBLE HAS POPPED. STOP TRYING TO BLOW THE BUBBLE BACK UP AGAIN BECAUSE IT HAS ALREADY POPPED. IT'S DONE. FINISHED. OVER. IT IS A BUSINESS THAT HAS COME TO A CLOSE, LIKE MANY BUSINESSES IN THE MARKET. NOTHING LASTS FOREVER. GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON. GO LEARN SOMETHING NEW AND STOP WASTING YOUR TIME.

08-07-2016, 07:19 AM	#387
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	Please don't apply to be a model on XloveCam. Now you want to tell me what our models make and don't make -- based on what? Another astute conclusion from questionable data that Paul gets for free on the Internet and ascertains conclusions he pulls out of his ass. You only lasted in this business when it was not competitive. When a market segment becomes competitive the first casualties are the ones living off the low hanging fruit -- that was your content business' segment. Your photographic technique may have been good but you totally suck at relating to people, other that posing a model who you pay to follow your directions. 99% of cam models would tell you to PVT/PV or "pay me or fuck off-old man" You do not have the credentials nor reputation to tell anyone jack-shit about the adult webcam business and your assertions, and your lack of any humility in presenting them, just proves this. We pay a market rate to models 50% to 70%. We have a narrow market perhaps but I inherited that in 2010 and have no intention of alienating that market segment. One size fits all means one size will not fit many. We have been in the French market since 1996 first as a France licensed telcom as an Audiotext provider to the adult market. Twenty years without the leadership of Paul Markham. Fucking amazing how did we do it? LMAO. Models complain on those boards all of the time -- many complain about the freemium websites you think are so great because you get hardcore for free -- many models do not like that -- giving away the good stuff for tokens that are worth 1/10 of a Dollar. I don't want to compete with a MFC or Chaturbate business model -- they already have that segment of the market. We have an established cam site that does millions a month in revenue -- and amazingly it does so without any Magic Paul Markham Stuff Start your own camsite or ally yourself with one. You can make all of the money that your illusions tell you is there. No Problemo -- I welcome the competition.

08-07-2016, 09:38 AM	#391
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Thank you guys Replies-----Views --389-------3,566 ---1----------96 Could not have done this on my own. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

08-07-2016, 10:21 AM	#392
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	If that is how you measure your accomplishments in life .... whatever I got a few new affiliates and a couple interesting business offers ... So, I made some bank -- that is how I measure success -- how much is coming into the bank -- GFY pissing contests are just diversions.

08-07-2016, 11:42 AM	#393
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,601	The beginning of this thread as it should have been written. https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...pher-time.html

08-07-2016, 03:30 PM	#397
arock10 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,218	After reading through all of this I have come to one conclusion Paul, u mad __________________ Sup

08-07-2016, 04:34 PM	#398
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08-08-2016, 05:00 AM	#400
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	This is almost as funny as the magic joins thread... still pretty outstanding though Off to get advice from Roseanne Barr on healthy eating, I believe she is pushing the 'john candy heart care' method