AdultKing

150 (insert whatever you like here)

Paul Markham

I expose bullies for what they are. If you think them staying in the dark is best, then you're wrong.

I can't fix everything and never claimed to. I do see the porn industry being slowly destroyed by people who have nothing to offer. A search engine won't cut it.

When you have something to offer, other than abuse, feel free to offer it.

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Who wants to own either of these sites? Real stats failed and now imaginary sites fail. Here's a real example.

Chaturbate, MFC, etc style sites are taking traffic from Xlovecam style sites. Would you rather adapt or die? Is your $2 million site a dream or reality? I will ask until it appears or you admit to lying.



What's stopping me being a webmaster? The pay grade.

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You think a webmaster makes less than what you get for free from the Czech government? No wonder you're so bitter. LOL

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Barry-xlovecam

Time for your meds,
fresh depends change,
can of assure
and nappy time ....

johnnyloadproductions

Funny...

but.

It was like this.
It is like this.
It will always be like this.

AdultKing

Are you referring to Mr Markham or the Industry or both ?

Bladewire

I'll spongebath him daily if he'll let me Markham is still hung & hot!

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Paul Markham

No, what I get from the Czech Government couldn't power up their laptop. Thankfully that's not my income.

I'm only bitter over stupid suggestions, flamers with nothing to offer, and dreamers owning imaginary sites.

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Paul Markham

It was what I thought about his stupid post. Would you like to own an imaginary site with imaginary traffic that does what I imagine?

Or a different imaginary site with imaginary traffic that does what I imagine?

Or 10 of ???? or 50 of ?????

Maybe this is why webmasters should stick to driving traffic and not get involved in business discussions based on facts.

Which are, the porn industry is changing and those that can't adapt will die. What's the company you work for doing to adapt

I was lucky I got in and out before free porn tipped the balance.

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Now that that loser piece of shit XXXJay I was gone maybe we can finally moveOn and do things better cause I Kaiser complete fucking idiot he fucked up the entire porn industry

360pornreviews

I tried to join your little chat groove the other day but I guess I wasn't cool enough...

Don't believe everything you read

Paul Markham

Would that be the imaginary meds that cost $10 and I need to take 20 a day or the imaginary meds that cost $100 and I only need to imagine taking 1?

When in business dealing with what you imagine you would rather own, and how you would imagine that would perform. Is considered total bullshit. Your percentage stats were meaningless.

At my age (66 in 4 weeks) I can spot your BS faster than you can write it. As you said webcams are changing. Your sites are being outperformed by the new model. The reality is the free cams do have a lot of traffic that used to be on your style of sites. The free cam sites are attracting girls who won't work for your style of sites. It doesn't matter if the traffic doesn't buy in the same ratio.

What matters is they're not on yesterday's sites so never going to spend there.

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I put a note in my diary to ask you about the performance of your search engine. What's the budget for getting people to the site to feel the benefits over Google?

I just saw my breakfast again.

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Barry-xlovecam

Yes Paul mostly free wankers that I am glad to see go.

You have no vision and are just dull -- have a good day

AdultKing

There's only one person who was rejected when they joined Adult Industry Chat so either you are that person or you should work out how to use Slack. If you didn't get an invite then try again.

Good luck.

Paul Markham

How do you know the people who left don't buy? Unless you're assuming because they didn't buy on your site., they won't buy on others?

That was the excuse in 2000. It was bullshit then and bullshit now. As a salesman, we were trained not to say "No one is buying". Because the right answer is "You're not selling".

People claimed all the people on Tubes are freeloaders. They can't be, otherwise no one would advertise on Tubes. The traffic leaving the old model webcam sites aren't buying on those sites because it's yesterday's product. Today's product is on Chaturbate style sites. How do I know this?

Because of the quality of models and site. It's similar to assuming someone who didn't buy on DVT's site, wouldn't buy on Twistys.

Barry your problem is you have no vision and are just out of your depth debating marketing with me -- have a good day.

AK don't need luck, just a diary app. Are you relying on luck to get people to abandon Google?

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Has anyone here seen a video of a girl they know fucking? Was it more or less erotic because you knew her?

As someone who can say yes many times and to different levels and knows how to market porn. There's an obvious reason.

When I see girls I know have sex I empathise with them. It's the difference between seeing a stranger on the street and someone you know and a friend. There are different levels of connection. Porn stars like movies stars sell better because of the empathy from the viewer.

The more the viewer knows the model, the more likely he is to buy her. So a cam model talking English to the camera lens, demands the attention of the viewer. She's going to earn more using this method.

She will earn less by, looking at a screen to the left, typing to the right, has her head cut off because of the camera angle, with taped music over the top.

Yes, Barry marketing is that easy. Do I need to run a cam studio to know this? No all I need is to be a man.

This is why webmasters need to not get involved in threads that are way out of their league. Pornographers know what porn sells.

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The same applies when promoting a product, especially a human one.

If all the tools are girls tapping on a keyboard or anonymously fucking. They will demand less attention than a girl showing who she is rather than what she does. The examples of this are too many to need any examples. Today's social media is jam packed with people selling themselves.

Taking a porn girl out of the porn scene and putting her into an environment the viewer can empathise with, will get more traffic than a clip of her "at work".

As OldJeff points out this is so basic in the marketing field its;

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I'm sure he's not one of those that just puts up tired old sex scenes in the hope the viewer might or might not like what the girl looks like.

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Barry-xlovecam

Do you own thing Paul but DO SOMETHING besides wear your keyboard out.

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Paul Markham

Why? I'm pointing out where you're wrong over and over again. This proves the thread title is right.

Webmasters do a very valuable job, they spread free porn everywhere and hope that 1-1,000s will buy something. Their skills are in putting banners on sites write blogs that will make SE Bots put their site of a SE page.

They can't program, design, shoot content, market or sell properly. Because if they could most of them would be doing it successfully and earning a lot more money. And there are many who can do other jobs well and elevated themselves.

This thread is about pornographers who can see what sells, marketing to see what can be sold today.

Just because you can't learn. Doesn't mean others can't.

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JSWENSON

I have no clue who you are or what sites you run but that's because it's irrelevant to me. I can damn sure tell you have a clue about the adult world without any of that information though.

JSWENSON

If every cam site in the world went to your content they would see an immediate drop in revenue and traffic. You don't understand the niche, you don't understand the content, you don't understand much of shit really.

JSWENSON

No, no you did not. What you did was do things that got your own cock hard. We get it, you got off on paying middle eastern girls $50 to play with their pussy in front of you. The fact that you were able to sell naked pictures to magazines when few were brave enough to shoot naked pictures of girls does not make you an expert photography. Your images are and have always been shit. I've literally never seen a set that I would take for free, much less pay to use.

JSWENSON

I can look at a picture and tell you whether or not it will generate sales. All those webcam screenshots in low resolution do a better job of selling porn than your overproduced bullshit with "teen" props in a fake bedroom ever did.

Barry-xlovecam

Come and take it back boy ...
I am trembling

No hard feelings really Paul but you are WAY out of your league ...

Paul Markham

Every site can't do it. That's the beauty of the idea. So how much do you understand?

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What gets my cock hard is what gets the customers cock hard. From then on you made less and less common sense as you showed you know so little about me. Most of my porn career was in London shooting video.

You may not have taken a set for free. Others paid $2,000 for a 1 year license that allows me to sell the content today.

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This isn't about showing screenshots of models as you point out any site can do that.

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Of course, I am, you're spending $2million on a webcam registry. who wants to be in that league. Your site is yesterday's model, I'm talking about tomorrow's model. You're unable to offer one counter argument and rely on abuse. I show you why you're unable to up tour game.

Bottom line is, the industry is changing, traffic is moving from your model of sites to the new model of webcams.

No hard feeling Barry, but if you don't step up into my league, you'll lose.

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Another webmaster debating out of his league. Another idiot claiming to know about marketing porn. Goodbye, you're not qualified to discuss this subject. As your signature proves.

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The great thing about this approach to marketing porn is girls and content providers who don't speak the language of the consumer. Can't do it. Anyone with a jot of intelligence knows that if everyone can do it, there are no advantages.

Met-Art is a great site because few can shoot that level. Exclusive Content producers were and still are shooting whole scenes for $400 because they couldn't shoot magazine sets for $3,000 and still own the content today.

The biggest problem when the bar is so low anyone can do it is. The market is saturated with idiots who think the bar should be low because they can't get over a higher one.

So yes I unashamedly confirm that not every site or model can raise the quality of their product and marketing to I higher league.

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May I translate what I see/feel??

$700 a month for 6 months paid directly to Paul.

He will not post on GFY for the 6 months but for only 3 posts a day MAXIMUM that I post on his behalf & only regarding his progress with the cam project.

My gut tells me he's challenging because he has decades of untapped knowledge, he's an alpha and wants to prove himself.

$700 a month = 3 posts a day max from Paul. He will use those 3 posts a day only to document progress.

Deal? Thoughts?

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This whole thread is really sad.

Barry-xlovecam

Webcam registry?

Internet Registry -- a new gTLD

You are a contemporary of Larry Flint -- in the magazine business. You failed -- Flint did not.
I can see why very clearly now.
Some adapt and some die. Some just remain as examples of what not to be -- that is you Paul -- an undignified internet troll

AdultKing

And look where you are now, retired and posting incoherent rants on a forum of people you have almost nothing in common with now.

I posted this in another thread but it's worth reposting here.

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It's not that Paul doesn't understand the Internet. It's that Paul doesn't understand the modern economy and commercial marketplaces that thrive in 2016. Paul does not understand business and doesn't accede the fact that it's coders and innovators who are revolutionising the way the world consumes and uses content.

The bulk of new content business models are to give things away for free and then charge for premium features or content.

Even when it comes to digital disruption businesses like Uber or AirBnB you see legacy industries decimated by the new sharing economy - and this is all still in it's infancy.

Paul, I am sorry to say this but you are out of touch, so completely out of touch that your dismay at how things happen now is being displayed in endless online rants about the way you think things should be.

The world has moved on into new business models and Paul still talks about audio tape as if it's something one could market today.

I'm sorry Paul, there is no easy way to say this to you without being blunt about it. You have lost touch with how the world works. You have no involvement or understanding when it comes to modern business and your irritation at not understanding that comes through in your incoherent, specious and outdated arguments and is painful to observe.

Just accept that things won't be the way you think they should be, because the way you think things should be ended over 20 years ago. The world has moved on and you haven't.

Paul Markham

My haters couldn't afford it.

Apologies, when will it come out?

Posting what others do is incoherent. We don't adapt or change, and there's the problem. OK, webcams can advertise on piracy and free sites. To monetise the freemium model. Which you seem to like.

There's no easy way to say this, you have nothing to offer but abuse. Telling us how other industries work highlights that we don't and can't change. Well, you can't as Chaturbate and a few others are changing.

The webcam world has moved on into new business model and Barry hasn't.

Hope the new gTLD works out for you. Two Reasons Why New gTLDs Had an Awful Week

$2,000,000 maybe you don't understand how the Internet works.

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No one needs to know how the Internet works to know how to sell. Not to know what gets a dick hard or to know what type of product is free and saturated and which one isn't.

The Internet is the van and paper or videotape or DVD. That used to deliver porn in the old days. It's just a medium for delivering a product to a consumer.

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AdultKing

In 2016 yes you do, because most purchase decisions start at what Google calls the Zero Moment of Truth (ZMOT) on the Internet. If you cannot channel your product, service or offering through Internet Marketing then you won't sell much of anything.

This is where you demonstrate your fundamental lack of understanding of the concepts that drive commerce and the economy in contemporary times. You are limited by old ideas and those ideas ceased having any relevancy the moment Joe Public hooked in to the Internet.

Yet everyone who disagrees with you is "abusive", all the people in this thread that know better are dismissed as "not understanding" where in actual fact it is you that doesn't understand.

It's really sad watching you unravel and make a complete fool of yourself on this forum, I mean that sincerely.

The Porn Nerd

Excellent points - which Paul will dispute.

I can boil down 95% of Paul's posts to this:

"The problem is...." then Paul proceeds to tell us what "the problem" is and - the best part - his ideas on how to fix "the problem".

Sorry but I am going back to work - and making actual, real money from selling porn on the Internet.

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AdultKing

Seriously Paul, a humorous clip from the IT crowd is all you've got ?

Go back to Jigsaws, they're easier to comprehend obviously.

Barry-xlovecam

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inside word is that .webcam raised 4 million in premium name sales so far
.xxx had sold a lot more.

As usual you don't know shit.
The more you rant the more l4m3 your shit is.
Time has passed you by -- but like I keep saying SHOW ME! Do Something besides rant like a lunatic.

You failed. We all do but most successful people get back up you didn't. You ran away and now try to taunt those that do every day -- fuck off Paul.

You don't have $2 million to work with and I would be very surprised if you could come up with 20K in cash in 12 hours.

Paul Markham

Do you mean putting an ad on Google, Twitter or YT etc? Or because you have a product that makes paid ads unprofitable, getting free traffic? Whatever, that's not how the Internet works. It's how producing a product, webmastering, marketing and selling works. So what's the big difference in the way that's done online rather than offline? Apart from driving free traffic.


Explain the differences of commerce and the economy in contemporary times. It'sthis simple.

Create something that draws people to view, make the product so good people come back time and time again, sell ad space or use the ad space for your own products. I can be Penthouse, A football game, Google or Pornhub. The big difference is only an idiot would advertise what they give away for free. Do you see Google advertising Yahoo?

I counter every argument you put forward, that's when you do have a counter argument. you're wrapped up in your own world that what motivates people to buy or consume has changed from being offline to being online. That's BS. Yes they get more free stuff online, that's because of the costs.

So explain how men's dicks get hard differently because they're online.

You need a lot of traffic to sell ad space on node.xxx the benefits you offer aren't enough for people to stay with a separate Search Engine for porn.

What's your marketing strategy to get 200,000 million surfers a day to your site?

How many click on a paid link?

How many can afford to buy your traffic and why will they be able to afford to buy? I will give you a clue to the last one "great content they can't get for free".

The Porn Nerd. Maybe you can tell us why what motivates a person to buy online is different from what motivates them offline. Barry, AK and I suspect you will tell us all very soon.

On the other hand, I have said what will motivate more people to buy a product that's got more personality than one that's got very little.

No one has to know how the Internet works, or online marketing, to know that.

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